Sources: Rockets pushing for a RYNO trade before the deadline

This can also explain his home and road splits. He has more legs on the road since she probably doesn’t travel with the team.

 

That just shows he takes 3s further away from the court, it doesn't mean his defender follows him all the way outside.

From "eye test" accounts (including Clutch's) Anderson doesn't take shots when somebody is near him so most if not all his shots are taken when no defender is drawn to him, in other words he is not creating any space when those shots are taken so it doesn't matter how far away he shoots the ball.

Curry is different because Curry is a volume shooter, teams can't leave him open so he creates a lot of space for his team by shooting so far away. Anderson tops out at 10 ppg so I dont think opponents focus on him in their defensive schemes since as long as a defender threatens to flash in they know Anderson won't shoot.

 

You said before they would give him open threes. Which is it?

I don't think "pushing him out just a little more than he's comfortable with" counts as giving him open threes. That sounds like the opposite of giving him open threes. To push him out they're going to have to cover him, right?

And how far are they going to push him to make him uncomfortable? Mid-court? He's a feast-or-famine streaky shooter (more famine than feast to be sure) but when he's making he makes from pretty far out. Farther than the average three point threat. When he's on a good streak it doesn't seem to matter if he's shooting from the three point line or 10 feet behind it. Same with Gordon. So by "just a little" do you mean 10 feet? Because that's not just a little. That's the definition of a lot.

I'm not saying I'm happy about Ryan Anderson or anything but no good coach is dumb enough to give him open threes. If they do he'll score a lot more than he has been even if he shoots 35%. Giving Anderson open threes is literally the only way to make him a major impact player for us. So I have a hard time believing Steve Kerr is going to do that.

Your last two posts were the opposite of themselves and this post I quoted was the opposite of itself too because Ryan is comfortable or he isn't. You can't change that by pushing him out "just a little" and if you do that's not giving him open threes.

 

You mean just half as good mvp runnerup players mvp good?

And just stop with the elite **** even morey the wizard can't convince ny hes more valuable than kanter

You beginning to sound like an lof

 

I like the thought of draymond green being on perimeter threatening to flash anderson

 

and it were not just 3s...he gave us hustle plays defense energy effort and momentum swinging plays(!)
good job good effort!

 

You back again?

Anderson takes more long 3's than anybody in the Association except Steph. If you watch the games you see what practically every defense is doing to him.

For goodness sake.....all anybody has to do is use their own noggin. If you were the opponent playing us, what is the best way to defend us? Do you cover Anderson tight as he spots up from 28 so we can play 4 on 4? Or do you keep a defender somewhere in the vicinity but cheating off him to help on Harden/Paul? Who hurts you the most, Anderson shooting a 37% bomb or Harden and Paul wreaking havoc?

It's common sense. If you're gonna give up something it's become increasingly evident that you give up the Anderson deep 3. Because.........he won't keep taking it. If he misses early he goes into a funk and becomes useless, starts hesitating, and you wind up with more squandered possessions. If he does take it early and knocks it down then the defense starts closing on him ever so slightly when the pass goes out to him.

All a defender has to do is be within 6 feet of him and they make him a 32% shooter out there. That's very pedestrian. Defenses will settle for that all day long. Combine that with moving him back to 25-29 feet.......If we could see that data, 25-29 feet with a defender within 6 feet of him......It might not even be 30%. Internally......the Rockets and Anderson know this. And that's why he hesitates and doesn't launch.

This is where the limitations of Anderson's game become negatives. He is not a threat to drive and finish. And when he's that far out he's not even a threat to upfake, dribble, sidestep and shoot. The upfake doesn't work. (There's your scouting knote.) Opponents know all they have to do is get in the proximity, make sure he lifts, then waive at him from 6 feet away. They don't have to get up on him on that long heave. They actually want him to get off as many of those looks as possible. Because the data says it's not an efficient look.

We're talking about an actual game here, game conditions. I'm sure if you had an open court drill where Anderson runs up into a 28 footer with another player throwing him the ball as he spots up that he'd probably top everybody in the Association on that drill. But, in reality, in game conditions, he might get 40 of those type looks MAX in an 82-game season where he can walk into a three from 28 with no defender within 6 feet of him.

That's why I keep saying there's a limit to the benefits of the "spacing" Anderson provides. And it isn't beneficial to simply park him 30 feet out. We'd be better off to have a quick-trigger shooter like Gerald Green spotted up 23 feet away. Because Green is gonna put it up if he gets just a couple feet of space on the catch. For that reason alone the defender has to stay close. Then when you understand Green's ability to cut and finish, which means the defender can't turn their head and attempt to double Harden/Paul with a reach, nor can they afford to bite on the shot fake after Green catches, and when he catches they also have to defend the drive. Then all of a sudden instead of standing around and cheating off Anderson trying to entice the pass out to Anderson where the defense is controlling shot selection, you have a situation where the defense is simply having to react and attempt to recover.

I'll say it again. Our best offense is when you've got Gordon or Green at that deep wing 4 spot with Harden and Paul on the court with one big. Anderson is, at the most, the fifth best floor spacer on this team because his only tool is shooting the wide open 3-ball with no defenders around.

Anderson is ideally best suited to be a small ball 5 offensively. He'd be great as a 5 if the game were offense only. But it ain't. He gives it all back and then some defensively.

Anderson would also be a much better looking player if he played alongside a defensively dominant center such as Gobert. Gobert's defensive dominance in the paint is such that he causes teams to not go inside as much. This takes the defensive pressure off the other guys and a team can afford to run a defenseless Anderson out there without him hurting their defense. But we don't have that type of defense in the paint. And because we don't Anderson's lack of defensive ability is totally exposed.

If we keep him I hope we move him to the bench and when he does play we need to go away from parking him 28 feet away. We need more plays with him in the corner as a corner 3 shooter with Gordon or Green way out high. Let him get closer to the line where he can catch and fire quickly.....similar to what we did with him early last night. That's a much more efficient play them him launching the deep bomb.

 

Also, the mental aspects of marriage as well (arguments, money, or not enough "workouts" but we are married now...)

 

Trade Ryan Anderson nowwwwwww.

 

if ryno is gone who will do all the dirt work, taking charge, putback rebound, sneaky pump fake at the rim to name a few

 

i dont understand the bolded, can you phrase it differently?

as per lof , i dont care how i sound i care only what i stand for brah

 

you said harden isn't half as good without an elite stretch PF like Ryno

are you saying RA here when in 2014-2015 when harden was mvp runnerup (alot less help vs curry) and player's mvp?
or which of Smith, Dmo, or TJones was an elite stretch PF that year?

and also I agree Ryno was an elite top 2 stretch PF last year. but this year top 10?

 

This is such a dumb post that this will be my last reply to you, because talking to you makes me lose brain cells...

First of all, the world does not exist in this black and white state you are envisioning. How reality really works (try to keep up)... you have 2 extremes (sucky vs great) on the opposite ends of the skills/ability spectrum and then a bunch of different points in between. What this translates to is the following:

- Superstars (Franchise Players): Consistently great, rarely bad
- Stars: Consistently good, often great, rarely bad
- Rotational (Specialists, Role): Sometimes good, sometimes bad, typically mediocre
- Backups: Bad to mediocre when forced to play heavy minutes, can occasionally flash
- Bench Warmers: Consistently bad, almost never flashes

Anderson is clearly in the Rotational phase as a spacing and shooting specialist. His shooting has been slumping badly, but he still provides spacing, especially when he is shooting with aggression. This means he is not terrible, or sucky. Is he not worth his contract? That's definitely a very legitimate argument this season, but that doesn't make him terrible. It just makes his value bad. That said, we were the ones that gave him said contract and that's not on Ryno.

 

i was not talking specifically about PF but elite shooters all around cp3 ego green anderson ariza of which PF is the most important

being twice as good is just a metaphor

 

somewhere in the 1st or 2nd webber or his mate said ANDERSON IS EVERYWHERE lol

hes that good he did the same vs warriors as well

as per his defense heres what fellow spurs fan said on another forum

"I just don’t understand how we can score 14 pts against a starting line up with Ryan Anderson and Harden. The game was over right there. "

 

Lol

This made me think seriously that I was actually thinking to myself the last couple of games that Ryan was pursuing offensive rebounds almost every possession. Meaning he is actually hustling now!? The SAD thing is I caught myself thinking, oh he’s actually trying???????? That Is bad, WOW

Then it made me think he has the fastest pump fake in the world. It is terrible and does not simulate his shot in any way, shape or form. I think the very few times it happens to work is because defenders haven’t seen pump fakes that bad since High school. Wow.

But above everything else, it bothers me most when he pumps a 3 when he’s actually open. I am dumbfounded by this. Ryan, at LEAST SHOOT the ball. PLEASE wtf

 

Is it heating up yet?

 

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#facts

 

I don't think he will be traded
I am ok with that

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