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trump's SOTU address thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    Haha now that's funny.
     
  2. RocketsLegend

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    HAHAHAHAHA looney liberals did not disappoint

     
  3. MojoMan

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    Petulant children, having a collective tempur-tantrum.
     
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  4. Os Trigonum

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    say what you will about Trump, it's an embarrassing time to be an American :rolleyes:
     
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  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Yes, let's focus on one trivial group of people tossing sandals. That's just as important as the president's behavior and in any case will really help us come together to discuss critical problems.
     
  6. BigDog63

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    I would agree with this outlook. Actually discussing the policies laid out in the speech is really what I wish the country would focus on, or at least threads such as this. The SOTU, regardless of who gives it, outlines a set of initiatives or policies which are the broad things that administration would like to accomplish. Are they good things? Bad things? Somewhere in between? What is likely to come from them? Will they passed? Heavily modified? DOA? Heck, even discussing the actual political responses from various people in Congress?
     
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    Well, you could pose a question, or comment. For example what policy do you would appeal to Democrats?
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    To a large degree yes but they do have influence. Starting a war can tank the economy. Passing a stimulus package can lead to boom years later.

    Whatever is going on now though economically is a result of policies from years ago. And those polices are a combination of both fiscal and monetary policy - low interest rates and the stimulus as well as other activities. Trump's tax cuts have yet to have an impact on the broader economy - but adding stimulus (tax cuts) during a boom can accelerate the end of the growth cycle (through inflation / interest rates). We're already beginning to see inflationary pressure starting to rise.

    Trump's tariffs and tax cuts will put pricing pressure and cause prices to rise and to control that the bank will be forced to raise interest rates. That in turn will put the brakes on the economy. So yes, Presidents do make major decisions that impact the economy.

    Obama passed the stimulus which stopped a depression. The proof is that the U.S had the most stimulus and recovered the fastest with the strongest economy today - and those countries that has low stimulus or practiced cutting gov't spending are actually the worst off today.

    Obama also resisted cuts that were needed at the right time.

    If Trump was smart, he would increase personal taxes on the wealthy and cut spending as well as not impose trade restrictions. This would keep interest rates low keeping money in the equity markets (since bonds will be less attractive) as well keep the dollar weaker which makes American exports cheaper to foreign markets and imports a bit more expense - acting as a natural trade barrier. This would keep the economy humming.

    But now it will crash
     
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    Have you looked at that website, the one yall are quoting and praising, the Columbia Bugle?

    I would be embarrassed too.
     
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    You are right about Trump in this regard. Good that you finally can admit that. Now if you can look in the mirror and see yourself for what you are.
     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You realize they are making fun of Trump here, not Democrats, right?
     
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    Frank Luntz (no Trump lover), disagrees.

     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    Perfect example of trump's neediness causing him to outright lie about something so silly and so easily disproven...





    Now imagine how he would lie about something big and important...
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Why does he have to lie about everything? It is really compulsive.

    Good for his speech writers for writing something slightly more uniting and less nihilistic. It clearly was a welcome surprise to those who watched.
     
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He has a narcissistic child mentality who has to win at everything.
     
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  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I guess that's it. And to be clear: has to claim he wins at everything.

    "the best steaks... available only at the Sharper Image." The fact that a human can overcome that statement and have any career following it really is a testament to something. I don't know what exactly.
     
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    The limousine liberals and Hollywood celebs' bashing of trump and 24/7 virtue signalling could backfire. People have already worn tired of their act.
     

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