Allowing for meritocracy when it comes to government employees is clearly a constitutional crisis that only an authoritarian would push for. Having incompetent government employees that cannot be fired is an integral part of democracy.
" the Promote Accountability and Government Efficiency Act was introduced to make federal employees “at-will” employees, meaning they could be removed or suspended from their jobs, without notice or right to appeal." Seems pretty close to Firing someone without notice or even a real reason Once upon a time Government jobs were the staples of stability and upward mobility Now we want to make them the equivalent of McDonalds Rocket River
Not a bad article, and it's consistent with the more dire one. Here are some good ideas from fedsmith (at least in my view), quoted from your link there: --- FedSmith.com author Jeff Neal has said he believes the entire disciplinary/reward process needs overhauling. He wrote last year, “The goal should be a government where good work is recognized, great work is rewarded, and poor performers and people with conduct problems either get better or get gone.” He went on to outline some specific recommendations for a disciplinary process that he thinks would work better, such as some offenses requiring mandatory removal and employees having only one venue for appeal. FedSmith.com author Bob Gilson said in a suggested fix of the disciplinary process, “Decide that authority to discipline employees should rest within an Agency, encourage an internal review, and leave an outside review to only the most serious claims.” --- Note how completely different these ideas are from that proposed by 45. If it's up to cabinet secretaries, then a new POTUS can come in, and by a wave of his (small?) hand, replace any and all federal employees that do not agree with him 100%, for example. He could march out all employees who voted against him, and march in a slew of drooling sycophants, if that's what he wanted. That's not a very good way to run a government, I think we could admit.
I take it that the larger issue here is trying to hold federal employees accountable, not unlike the federal Civil Service Reform Act of 1978. It's probably time to take another look at the issue regardless of which side of the aisle you stand on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Reform_Act_of_1978
In terms of what a constitutional crisis "looks like": The GOP chartered train just rekt a garbage truck. (Driver of truck is dead.)
one more followup to the Slate piece which mentions the Slate piece http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/31/trumps-biggest-point-last-night-need-upend-deep-state/ excerpt: Civil service protections were supposed to make government administration less political. Instead, they have created a system that grows government and advances left-wing causes regardless of who the people elect. Even our most conservative presidents burn energy and political capital fighting their own departments to a standstill, while career bureaucrats undermine their policies and wait out their terms, ready to pick right back up again under the next administration. As then-candidate Trump said in his election campaign, the game is rigged. Left-wing outlets will, of course, frantically oppose any effort to level the playing field. “Donald Trump Just Asked Congress to End the Rule of Law,” is the hysterical Slate headline in response to Trump’s mere mention of civil service reform. The truth, of course, is that making those who work in the executive branch accountable to elected officials—who are then accountable to We the People, as our Constitution intended—restores republican governance rather than undermines it. more at the link
That seems completely delusional and acidic to me, but honestly, thanks for sharing it. It's interesting to see what some people think. I mean, wow: the CDC, for instance, "advances left-wing causes," like fighting disease outbreaks. The NSF "advances left-wing causes," like funding fundamental scientific research that, you know, historically has a big positive impact on the nation's economy. Don't even get me started on all the ways the DOD "advances left-wing causes." This sounds like an unhinged Limbaugh-esque person. I guess the author of that piece just sees certain entire branches (like HUD for instance? social security administration?) as "left-wing causes," in that, yes, they were born of more left-leaning movements historically and I guess he would rather those wings just not exist. If we hold our government to be data-driven wherever possible, these ideas of "left wing" versus "right wing" agendas just melt, but we have to commit to real facts and data.
Not governing by facts and data isn't so big an issue to me, as long as we truly have government accountable to all the people. The problem is we are both govern without accountability to all people, and now, with non-facts and non-data. But facts and data doesn't matter when election is indeed rigged and getting worse. It also doesn't matter when the public doesn't care to participate. We should have mandatory voting, extremely easy voting (hello technology). That to me is even more important than getting rid of money in politic. If government is really held accounting to all the people, the money in politic might be an issue, but it can work itself out in today and the future when there is less and less room for secrecy. And part of that less secrecy is a free press. The founding father got it right on that one and so many on the right fail to see the danger of eroding that.
Something is a left-wing cause or right-wing cause based solely on whether political parties are fighting over it. At it's core, whether Climate Change is real and man made is NOT a political debate. It either is real and man made or it is not. It's a scientific issue. However, because it is currently a political wedge issue, scientists who operate on scientific data are pushing an agenda one way or another.
[ McDonald's? Oh no it's far worse. At least McDonald's presumably tries to employ capable managers on the backs of its state-sunsidized low wage army. That would be the codification of an ultra corrupt political spoils system - the literal destruction of the federal government aka the "deep state"
Having (in)competent government employees that cannot be fired is an integral part of democracy. A Meritocracy from a president that has never done anything of Merit He simply bought his way through life and used money as his main weapon to bully people but yea. . let's talk about Meritocracy for everyone else Rocket River
When you have people who cannot be fired, you are asking for incompetence more often than not. When you cannot be fired one way or the other there's no incentive to do a good job.....and that's why you see so many terrible government employees. Getting rid of those who are awful is a great idea. The rest of your comment after the first sentence is just a b**** fit about Trump due to your Trump Derangement Syndrome....I suspect it's the cause of the entire post though.
It's not. In the house you have to get re-elected every 2 years or you are automatically fired, in the Senate, every 6. On top of that, there are ways that you can be "fired" for screwing up during the middle of your term. The correct parallel would be the SCOTUS, but that's why there is extreme care taken and they are ridiculously scrutinized before getting that job....and there are only a small number of them allowed. It's much easier to get other federal jobs and nearly as impossible to remove you from the job once you get it. That's something that should change.
Its time for Governmental employees to lose their tax payer subsidized walls and for SEIU and such to quit suckling off of our democracy. People should be paid a wage as per they're value and then can save and consume as per their own right. If they are incompetent they should be fired and seek excellence elsewhere. Its ironic that many here think Trump is trying to load up the govt with his people and is a fascist trying to take over as what he is doing is reducing the size of government, reducing government power and influence over our lives and our money giving more power back to the states for local issues?? How is that cronyism?
I am to the point where I would rather hear rockets legend’s quip opinions on things, than yours. Also just about thisclose to blocking your comments on here which would be the first person I have blocked in my 18 years of reading on this site. Your BS seriously hold no bounds. I have read TJ’s stuff, Basso, etc etc. didn’t bother me. You sir though have a particular way of bringing the hypocrisy to a level that could be studied if your comments were read in context in their entirety. This coming from someone not on the “fringe” by the way. If that’s what you want to pin me as.
Yah I blocked this (seemingly intelligent) fool. I think Trump is a national embarrassment. blah blah blah. But you fringe left, snowflakes, in your echo chambers insult insult insult etc. etc. etc. it's OK Trump is an embarrassment, you should all be content regardless. What awful/weird shtick.
