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I'm getting tired of Harden's And 1s not counting.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatboyPhuong, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Mr. Space City

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    II'm just anticipating the refs changing the euro step rules.

    you just know it's coming.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    doubt it. euro step is just a product of footwork that some players work on. its essentially the same as taking two steps after a dribble, only your side stepping on the last step.

    unless you mean players won't be allowed a 2nd step. which would just murder the game of the basketball haha
     
  3. Mr. Space City

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    drawing fouls is a product of taking advantage of bad defense that some players work on too but here we are.
     
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  4. YOLO

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    too much hooking of that arm pissed off the nba lol
     
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    What he is trying to say is. Blah blah blah blah blah...LOL
    But yeah, too many missed calls.
     
  6. ipaman

    ipaman Member

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    Game is about stars shining and doing amazing things and the league is ruining that.
     
  7. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

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    Just Harden, really. These new continuation rules have not applied to other stars thus far.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    just houston stars

    if harden was with the lakers he wouldn't have been targeted like this
     
  9. alethios

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    It's really the league's fault for making the rules even more complex and easy to call unevenly. But it seems that the league is especially focused on Harden and his ability to draw fouls, which is singularly unfair and calls out a specific player, while disproportionately favoring continuation for other players.

    " “The Harden Rule” states that an offensive player can no longer draw a foul by initiating contact, and that a player must be in the act of shooting to be attributed a shooting foul. Essentially, continuation is no longer guaranteed. If a player gets fouled but they are not clearly in the shooting motion, it will no longer be called as a shooting foul."

    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/artic...e-nba-version-of-the-nfls-catch-rule-disaster
     
  10. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Ugh, I watched the Orlando game during a night class and the guy next to me wouldn't stop talking about how nothing Harden does is impressive because everything comes at the free-throw line.

    Of course when we got into stats the conversation ended quickly... but this is the perception. Sharing this on Reddit will just trigger people.
     
  11. ipaman

    ipaman Member

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    did you cut the b****?
     
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  12. Rocket River

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    Actually when you take into account we shoot so many threes
    It is less free throws there too

    Not giving Harden the 4 pt play comes to mind
    If we were in the bonus .. it would only be 2 shots

    Rocket River
     
  13. Rocket River

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    What is a 'shooting motion" now?
    "The Gather" isn't considered part of it?

    When Harden goes into the lane. . . he holds the ball low so no one can strip him until he swings up to shoot in one motion.
    The only way to stop that is . .. All Ball . .. . and more often than not .. . a hand across his fore arms
    Now. . . since he coming from so low .. .it is not considered part of his shooting motion??

    Rocket River
     
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  14. alethios

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    Exactly - that's what's unfair about this new rule - Harden typically gets hacked while going up for a shot which includes the drive to the basket, yet the refs are being told to keep their whistles silent mainly for him. It's blatantly obvious that they are singling him out.
     
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  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Overall the rule is fine. The problem is the league/refs are OVER CORRECTING specifically on Harden. If there is any chance the play is 50/50 either way, it is side out all the time. With other players, they are getting the benefit of the doubt. But that is what happens when you have "The Harden Rule."

    Just be consistent with everyone. Just because Harden gets to the line does not mean "he is getting over on you, ref." Sometimes a foul in the act of shooting is a foul in the act of shooting.

    Harden doesn't take the easy way out. He sacrifices his body EVERY GAME with drives to the basket and is hammered. He doesn't stand around and just take jumpers. His pain is earned and should be rewarded if he is in the act of shooting.
     
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    Lol those type of comments make me chuckle.

    60pts minus 18pts(fts) is still mother****ing 42 points. A 42 point triple double is still a monster game. #hatersgonnahate
     
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    lol. wasn't exactly the right environment for that. he's also a group member on a project. I can't be getting F's because I'm defending James Harden to fools from LA.
     
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    Name one time he tried to "sell a call this season"
     
  19. RasaqBoi

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    #WhatYo1sLookLike ??!??
     
  20. cerophilik

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    I would be okay if they fixed it for everyone. A lot of other players do get 50\50 on continuation. But Harden barely gets 10 percent of those shots as continuation.
    And what Harden gets less is calls on obvious fouls. The refs keep calling most of those slaps on the arms as deflections or strips on the ball.
    The good thing is it has made Harden less dependable on the whistles as a bail out and he has try to score instead.
    Still on some nights it does affect the end result of the game. Not only for Harden but Paul doesn’t get those calls either.

    The NBA needs to call all those plays the same way for everyone not a few. Harden shouldn’t be the focus of this rule change.
     

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