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But her emails: Justice Department to review Clinton email case... again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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  2. B-Bob

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    Actually, no. We'll only know the exact language of the predictable GOP talking points. That's it. And that they are (gee, why?) scared to include the Dem rebuttal to Nunes creative writing.
     
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    This is so embarrassing.

    The Republican party simply cannot be saved.

    They stand for nothing, they do nothing, they cheat, they steal, they lie.

    A stain on the US.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    GOP has pretty much already leaked what's in the memo. Basically they are trying to say the memo reveals the entire Mueller investigation is based on the Christopher Steele Dossier that was paid for by Clinton and used to "illegally" spy on Page which all snowballed into the current Russia probe therefore Mueller should be fired and so should everyone in the FBI so they can be replaced with KGB
     
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    I get a good laugh out of we'll know more once the memo from that shill Nunes is released. Lol. Like saying we'll know more as soon as InfoWars releases their thoughts on Obama.

    Comical stuff.

    The politicization of things that have never been political in order for Republicans to pursue derp state conspiracies is just a sad state of affairs. Nothing matters anymore, it just matters who has the power.
     
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    Clearly you are unaware of the Democratic issues with the above. Or, more likely you are aware, but you're with it when they do it. Either way, this post does nothing but point out your partisan nature and inability to provide anything of any substance..
     
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    They can be as vile and hated as ever, but the fact is they are still well funded and have a well oiled propaganda machine. The ROI GOP donors got from the tax cut will have them double down on Trumpism as a vehicle for them to rake in the dough again with the next bill he can get passed.

    So they do stand for something.... the interests of billionaires. Our government is officially up for sale as a cash machine for the Trump oligarchs.
     
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    I understand your point and the comfort w dismissing his point, but the equivalence you suggest is false, particularly when one party has nearly all the power and is now actively trying to thwart law enforcement's needed investigation into an objectively sketchy bunch of people, their actions, and their many lies.
     
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    I find this rebuttal memo pretty embarrassing, to be honest, and I'm glad it got blocked. Of course, that does mean whatever liberties with the truth Nunes took in his memo will go unanswered. But, answering a piece of propaganda with another piece of propaganda is not what our Representatives should be engaged in. They should be having this debate in the House, not in the papers. I think Democrats abet the undermining of democracy when they play this game. Denounce the Nunes memo, vote your conscience in the House, and leave it at that.
     
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    They tried to have the debate in the House:
    -Wanted to have the underlying "evidence" presented to the full house for review in addition to the Nunes memo: Denied
    -Wanted to have the FBI director address the committee directly to provide context to information contained in the Nunes memo: Denied
    -Wanted to have open hearings about the memo: Denied

    I can't bother to be embarrassed for the Democrats here, I'm too embarrassed for the country.

    Here's what we KNOW about the memo:
    -FBI/Intelligence agencies provided long list of information to a small group of Congressmen.
    -Nunes has NOT read this information
    -Nunes is outraged by abbreviated summary of select parts of the information and believes the world deserves to see this summary of evidence that he has not read
    -Justice Department, FBI and Democrats who have seen the evidence all say the memo is misleading, incomplete, etc.
    -Justice Department and FBI say it is damaging to national security to release this memo
    -Nunes doesn't care and has zero interest in either reading the evidence behind this "summary memo" himself or letting anyone else see that evidence

    Pathetic.
     
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    It wasn't blocked. Republicans voted to make it available to all house members. In a week it will be voted to release to public. Same process as Republican memo. They didn't agree to release to public yet because the majority of the house intel committee haven't been allowed to read it. Can't declassify something you haven't read.
     
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    BLIND.

    This isn't about political views anymore. This is not a difference in ideology.

    The Republican party is corrupted. They do not serve the people of this country.

    This is an attack on our government, our country, and imbeciles like you are willing idiots in the coup.
     
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    LOL, now that's funny. "This isn't about political views anymore.....but everyone who has different political views than I do are corrupt, don't serve the people of this country, and are destroying the world"

    Do you really think this kind of hyperbole is effective? I mean, you do realize that you are posting this in a thread about how crimes by the candidate you supported for president were swept under the rug by a corrupt FBI and DOJ...
     
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    That's a good point. Therefore we shouldn't read the actual evidence so we can't declassify it to prove whether the memo is false.
     
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    Just wait for the IG report that comes out in a few weeks. good grief. chill.
     
  17. Nook

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    Just about the best summary I have seen. Both parties are guilty of playing politics from time to time. Having said that, this is disgusting. It is just an effort by the Republicans to muddy the water and erode the credibility of the investigation so when it all comes to a climax; people with political blinders on can say "yeah well they made it up". It is a very dangerous game to play.
     
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    The problem is that the investigation has legitimate problems when it comes to their credibility due to those picked to be part of the investigation.....and to run it. You seem to want to keep all of those problems secret or simply ignore them and I get it, you are just looking for a specific outcome and you don't care how that happens, but some people care about the process not being corrupt....especially after it's clear the investigation into the crimes Hillary Clinton was corrupt and some of those same people were running this investigation. You'll just have to accept that.
     
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    Reckless, to be precise.

    Political hack Nunes wants to de-classified secret intel, for partisan reasons.

    Who benefits? Trump and the Russians.
     
  20. Nook

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    I don't see any strong issues so far with the people chosen to be a part of the investigation. If strong evidence emerges then I will change my opinion accordingly. Thus far all I see is the Republicans desperately attempting to create the narrative that the investigation is compromised or biased in an attempt to protect the President. The Nunes "memo" is a pathetic example. The Republicans do not want the issue debated or discussed because it can potentially do long term damage to their party. Would the Democrats do the same under similar circumstances to the Republicans? I am sure at least some would and likely there would be efforts to stop the investigation. That would be wrong as well........ but that isn't what we are dealing with.

    The damage that Donald Trump has done to the Presidency and the view that Americans have towards our governmental systems is substantial and will not easily be fixed.
     
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