There is no "equality out opportunity" when you're starting off poor and someone else is starting off rich. The "inputs" might be the same, but the initial state isn't. And even if the inputs and initial state is the same, there may be systemic biases that result in unequal outcomes. Systemic biases against certain populations should be eliminated, if they exist.
That's called life kiddo. Even if you are starting off poor, you still have the opportunity to change that through making correct decisions and through hard work. Every person who is poor has the same opportunities. Every person who is rich has the same opportunities. You know, equality of opportunity. Inequality of outcome isn't a bad thing, it's actually the most just system. A person who works hard and makes the right decisions shouldn't have an equal outcome as someone who doesn't work hard and makes bad decisions. Equality of opportunity is what we are after, and we largely have it now.
“And we largely have it” is where the dispute arises. I’ll note that you didn’t actually disagree that opportunities are unequal between people who are rich and people who are poor. Unequal outcomes is not inherently a bad thing, I agree. But it can point to root problems that should be fixed. Racial bias may be one, but it’s not limited to that. The failure of one or both parents to care for their children is clearly another.
What you don't get is that the current system doesn't provide fair outcomes. That's not complaining about equality of outcome. That's complaining about the fairness of the system. If life were an exam and decisions were exam questions, a rich white person could get 5 questions wrong and receive a grade of 90. Where as a poor black person would get 5 questions wrong on the same exam but receive a grade of a 80. This is due to the teacher grading the exam being biased and grading the white kid more generously, even though there is no valid reason for it. Why does life force a poor black person to work harder in order to achieve the same as a rich white person? And when schools give out privileges and additional resources to kids that score 90 and above, tell me how that equates to equality of opportunity.
Well because of course they are. You'll also find unequal opportunities between people who are 4'11 and people who are 6'10 when it comes to playing basketball. There are always going to be inequalities in the world, and they aren't a wrong thing to have. The goal is to seek fairness more so than equality. When you have a merit based system, those who are better get more than others so you end up with inequality....but it's fair inequality. You focus on race, but life is harder for a poor white person than it is for a rich black person too....life is harder for poor people and that's not unfair. Those who are upset that being poor sucks should do something to change their circumstances and give their children a better life. If you avoid making simple mistakes like having children early in life out of wedlock or developing substance abuse problems and you stay employed, you aren't going to be poor forever.....and that's what can be done by even the least talented people who have next to nothing else to offer the world. If you happen to be very good at something, you have it even easier. What's funny though is the type of people sitting around whining and crying about not being born with a silver spoon in their mouth are the same types of people who totally screw up their lives in order to stay or become poor.
and life is easier for a rich white person than it is for a rich black person. No matter how you spin it, the white folk get preferential treatment and get graded more leniently than blacks
Instead of being eliminated, there are mandates that minorities are allowed to exploit that give them leverage over majority in favor. Affirmative action and equal opportunity bullshjt in employment basically states that yes minorities are discriminated upon, here's a way for you guys to get over that hurdle. If you want to eliminate bias, eliminate leverage. By establishing a way to leverage, you recognize there are discriminations and disparities. That is an absolutely horrible way to "equalize" it. SIL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-nearly-called-Jennifer-Aniston-tell-her.html I guess it could happened to anyone . . .. Rocket River
Ok, I can easily find a situation where a white guy wasn't accepted over a black guy in a situation....say pick up basketball? Asian...Jeremy Lin? SIL
