[Chron] Could Daryl Morey finally pass at trade deadline?

I'm totally fine with Morey packaging all our assets minus Harden and CP3 to get rid of Ryno next summer if it means Lebron is coming.

If Lebron joins a team with Harden and CP3, you can be damn sure there will be a ton of ring-chasing vets who will take the min to sign with us.

If DJ is rumored to wanting to come to Houston, he'll be taking a paycut too to make it work. If Gerald Green shows his loyalty and stays on this team, he can play him at the 3 next to Lebron then we'll have 3 guys who can play above the rim with our 2 HOF passers.

 

I respect your opinion. Fortunately for the Rockets you don’t respresent all other teams collectively. I wouldn’t
have drafted Thon Maker or Nerlens Noel because of their weight (or lack there of). But teams are interested
in player development over time. Noel, Maker, Capela, Covington, Qi have greater value than when originally drafted
or when brought into the league.

Like the stock market or buying a house. The idea is getting multiple cheap guys with great potential to be players
in this league. Hartenstein is compared to a Dirk Nowitzki. Hindsight is 20/20......who thought Dirk would be as
great as he has become? I loved the Porzingis pick when it was made.......many Knicks fans hated it. Who
wouldn’t want Porzingis now?

Morey will move the Ryan Anderson contract easily this summer. If LeBron says he will join the Rockets; that
sets the process in motion. Some team will take the contract, with young player(s) and picks. First rd picks
are the gold standard in the NBA.....even pick 28th thru 30. Houston can offer 1st’s (17/18), (19/20) & (21/22)
and some team will buy it. 3 firsts or less.......various 2nd rounders mixed in. If you again predict “No Way”.
I will tell you watch and learn when it happens. It will happen.

Trade for LeBron is not happening during the season. That is why Ryan is not going anywhere by trade
deadline. Everyone will have to wait until summer. LeBron wants one last shot at the Warriors while in
Cleveland.

 

That's what I was thinking. Run some hills man. Make sure you are around for a long time.

 

Interesting to see what happens for the Rockets at the trade deadline. I had been hoping that the Rockets would try a get a 3rd point guard. Since Harden has been out Gordon has been doing a good job setting up his team mates as well as scoring and Green is also making plays for others as well as scoring. If these guys keep getting more assists than their average consistently then I have to eat my own words that the Rockets need a 3rd point guard. I would have no complaints if Morey stood pat come trade deadline. All this teams needs is to get healthy. The Rockets face some strong teams next week, it would be a huge confidence boost if they win some of those games without Harden.

 

Is there another Lou Williams to be had at the deadline? I know people didn't think too highly of him here, but the guy won us two playoff games against the Thunder with his shooting. He is averaging 34 PPG in his last 6 on 48% and 44% from 3, he just dropped 50 tonight and got a win against the Warriors. It's surprising people aren't really talking about losing him at all on the forums.

 

Yes it was ok to trade Patrick Beverley and Sam Dekker for Chris Paul.

Having to part ways with Lou Williams and Montrezl Harrell though brought a huge sense of doubt for the future.

The emergence of Eric Gordon and the recent acquisition of Gerald Green would offset in a way the lost point production from 'Sweet Lou'.

Having signed Gerald Green, I would think Daryl Morey would be done trading this season. But if it means letting go of Ryan Anderson and his humongous contract, then yes, by all means go for it.

 

Love Bev and Monstrez, huge fans of their attitude and work ethic. But I would do that deal again today without hesitation.

Paul, PJ, Luc have been huge upgrades. Standing pat when you are trying to dethrone GSW would have been a losing strategy. Change was needed, Paul was needed.

 

To add. CP3 is a GSW big-4 level player. Lou Williams is... a Nick Young level player.

 

Not op, but when you work in equities, one of your main concerns is whether future information is already priced into the stock or not.

Draft position (aka stock price) is frequently not indicative of underlying value, even adjusting for the future. If it were, Morey could never find undervalued draft picks.

 

I have it on good authority that he has agreed in principle to a deal that would add $2M and another draft pick to the package we're trading to the Clippers for Chris Paul.

 

True, but we are dealing in human beings as well. Isaiah Hartenstein turns 20 in May. Some thought goes
into projections such as boy changing into man. I would love a franchise to flip the bill on strength training,
nutrition, skill development (with those with good rep such as Lucas/Roy Rogers) in the beginning years. Then
swoop in and acquire said talent as they begin to mature. Stock can possibly go from cheap to untouchable
as it did with Porzingis.

Have land on a main road which brings you x-amount......then a freeway loop is projected to be built next to said
property. Value jumps exponentially. Scouts will tell you, “you can’t teach height.” Qi and Hartenstein are
both 7 footers who have potential to hit 3’s consistently. Bigs that can do that are all the rage nowadays.
They have value that you may not see......doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I can supply you with scouting reports
of each player by a reputable scout prior to the Rockets acquisition of Qi and Hartenstein. Hartenstein was said
to be too raw. If allowed to continue playing overseas and not drafted by Houston.....could be a lottery pick in the
the summer of 2018 draft.

Some scouts value our guys. And those guys are employed by some nba teams.

 

With Redick getting that crazy contract, let’s trade Ryno for him!! He wanted to come here anyway and might as well go all out on shooting. Start him or Gordon, Ariza to the 4 spot. Can you imagine the shooting?! We would have 4 great 3pt shooters and 5 if Green keeps it up

 

I ragged on Gordon a TON for his performances in late December. His ball-handling was looking like a mix of Ariza and Brewer for some reason. He has really turned it up a notch and helped the team in a major way, sticking to his strengths and pushing himself.

And I agree, a backup ball-handling guard has to be a priority at the deadline, even if it's picking up driftwood like Gerald Green instead of pulling off a trade.

 

Just don't trade Gerald Green.

 

We're missing 6 guys tomorrow playing against the Suns. Is Morey going to sign another FA to replace one of our scrubs any time soon?

Tarik, Nene, Zhou, Harden, Troy, Luc all are injured and out.

If Onuaku and Webber doesn't at least put up some numbers tomorrow, Morey should just cut them sign more Vets like Green that are available from FA.

 

Lol @ Chalmers and Afflalo.

 

I think the only thing that could be in play would be something like
Anderson for Love .. . . If Love is Truly unhappy and checked out

I also think Morey is trying to keep himself in the game for the Summer
and would not do anything to lower flexibility this summer

Rocket River

 

Great analysis but do not agree with conclusion. Adding another PG is not a need. The clear need us at PF. However not seeing too many trade opportunities that could 1)move Ryno's contract and more importantly 2)improve the 4 spot.

A small trade to upgrade backup 5 may be all that is needed. Nene is prone to injury while Clint is prone to wear down when played too many minutes and Black is just not capable of providing similar production should he go down, especially in postseason.

 

I actually don't mind the idea of bringing in Chalmers or Afflalo. Those were both guys who were discussed in this forum in the offseason as potential targets, and I think both guys could bring something to the table. The problem is that, given D'Antoni's rotations, the Rockets already have one guard who isn't getting playing time in Green. So whose minutes would Chalmers or Afflalo be taking in this scenario?

I agree that PF is probably the greater need, but Kevin Love is a pipe dream unless the Rockets are dealing half of the roster or the Cavaliers' front office completely screws up. And I just don't see another PF target out there that's a significant upgrade from Ryno right now. Mirotic would be perfect, but I have no idea what Houston has that the Bulls would covet.