Again, you are just terribly naive when it comes to this and are merely parroting their propaganda. It would be similar to talking about white nationalists and suggesting that their goals were merely to prevent "white genocide" or whatever nonsense spin they'd put out there. You eat that BS up when it's certain identitarian groups and I personally think that's sad. They can call themselves whatever they like, but they espouse Marxist ideology....something you can't refute, so at best they are a perversion of the right much like there are groups on the left that are a perversion of the left. It's okay, this might be over your head and I'll understand if that's the case. That's EXACTLY the point, you just don't want to see it because you personally either support certain identitarian groups or are an identitarian yourself. You don't want to believe that identitarianism is inherently bigoted, divisive, and inevitably violent. You parroting their propaganda won't change their inherent nature and "my inherently bigoted group is superior to that inherently bigoted group" is a really stupid argument.
It is probably not helpful in understanding the alt-right to strawman their motivations as some simple sexual frustration. This is a real ideology that holds a real appeal to some segments of society. Simply dismissing it is done at your own peril. They already won the White House and they're infecting Congress as well. I don't think we're going to win the soul of America by making fun of the alt right for not being good with the ladies.
They didn't. It was 93% in 2012 and 95% in 2008. https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/ https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/
I like Glynch a lot but threads meant to rile people up are weajk. That being said I can't understand how people who follow politics don't understand this. Both parties live in their bubbles. When Democrats say Trump is gonna lose support next election cause all they watch is cnn criticizing him, I'm like you still don't understand why he won. Your post is at the core of his victory. We can criticize Trump voters but they have the right to vote just like everyone else. Republicans were on the brink of losing the social political voting base. Trump is never letting up on immigration for example cause he will lose the base vote. Instead of wasting time on Russia, Democrats need to figure out Ohio
Are you saying there are no anti-LGBT GOP politicians and the belief that there are is propaganda? Enlighten me oh so enlightened one. Which part of their movement espouses Marxist ideology? So is GLAAD equal to the KKK?
I'll actually ask you this question as well. Are identity organizations/movements like GLAAD equal to ones like the KKK?
I'm saying that all identitarian movements are inherently supremacist in nature even if that nature is successfully hidden with propaganda. Their philosophy is derived from Marxist ideology just like all identitarian movements. Identitarianism is merely a cultural version of Marxism. They see the world as oppressed vs oppressor, the main difference is that instead of it being proletariat vs bourgeoisie they see is as white vs nonwhite, nonwhite vs white, LGBT vs heterosexual cisgendered, woman vs man and so on. You can copy and paste any two groups into the equation and you get an identitarian movement based on Marxist principles. Much like with the original Marxist ideology there is one group that is lauded as being "good" and one group demonized as being "evil" or predatory.....at their core literally every identitarian movement shares this world perspective as it is the natural conclusion of the logic behind that ideology
The formula for this talking point argument from the Right is to thread the needle to link "X Liberal Program/Group" to Socialism then link to Communism which they blame for the millions of lives lost during WW1 and WW2. They will make that stretch without blinking an eye. Takes two to three post responses here for someone like Bobby to make that link. Its the talking point that is given to fuel right wing media about Antifa, BLM, and other groups seen as professional protesters fighting against "Merica'n" Values. So just so you are not shocked.... you won't get a straight answer to this simple question, but they will take a roundabout way to say yes... groups like GLAAD are not only equal but probably worse than the KKK.
I know you aren't the brightest person here, and I try to not hold things like that against people, but i never mentioned socialism or communism.....or the millions of people that economic ideology has killed. I was merely explaining that identitarian ideology stems from Marxist principles.....I even spelled out that the identitarian movements were a cultural version of Marxism which is economic in nature. In short, I explained how it WASN'T socialism or communism. If you don't understand how the ideology of identitarian groups stem from conflict theory....well that's on you kiddo.
So, was the Civil Rights movement inherently supremacist? Cool. So, can you, for instance, name the LGBT movement that in your mind is against heterosexual cis people?
Oh yes, I'm almost predicting the response. It's very hard to get some people to simply recognize that not all identity groups are the same. It is rather hard to believe that some people don't know what context is. That a group whose purpose is killing or displacing non-white people is equal to a group fighting for equal rights is pretty silly. It shows, I think, a mistake in critical thinking to not be able to discern why the KKK is different from GLAAD. It takes an ignorance of history and just completely ignoring the actual stated purpose of groups. It's also silly to blame the Alt-right on BLM because then you have to ask yourself, then why does BLM exist? What actions caused this group to exist in the first place?
Goto CHRON.COM and read the Comment section .. . . . . I guess that should be the measuring stick for people Rocket River
The ideology behind a lot of it certainly was.....you know, that's why it ended up birthing terrorist organizations. Not all of the civil rights movement was based on conflict theory though. You had the Malcom X wing which was very much inherently supremacist in nature and bathed in conflict theory, unfortunately that's the wing that won out in the end partly due to key leaders in both wings being murdered thus becoming martyrs for the more radical supremacist side of things....well that and success breeds radicalism. Once nearly all of their aims got addressed, they had the option of either going out of business (and those groups can be big business) or find excuses to keep up the fight. When you get equality, then you start fighting for supremacy. ....that would be the LGBT movement. They view straight cisgendered individuals as their oppressor the same way black identitarians view white people as their oppressor or how feminists view men as their oppressor. How is this hard for you to understand? When it comes to these groups, if you are outside their group, they view you as inherently oppressive of them unless you subjugate yourself as an "ally".
Who knows why people do things. One can say they didn't get enough hugs as kids, though a lot of the parents of those tikki nazi members have said they did not raise them that way. I remember this one kid Derek from a neighborhood, his father was a tremendous fire fighter but was killed saving AMERICAN lives. Their hard working mother was trying to raise him and his brother working two shifts. The kids drifted and sought refuge with white supremacists as a sense of belonging. Derek, older brother, was a legit basketball player. Could have gone pro better than all the black kids, incredible mid range game and dunker. Did I mention they played for keeps against the blacks to keep the courts? derek single handedly won the game. It was like incredible.
And there were Indians who hated the British that participated in Gandhi's movement. The British wanted to label him as a villain but he was savvy enough to really control the image of his movement, but there was violence and I am sure if there was FB back then there would be a lot of disgusting comments directed towards the British. The politics of movements is that one side will try to make the movement illegitimate by looking for its worst elements. But just because there are racists in BLM doesn't make it's cause for fighting against Police Brutality without merit.
