False. I agree, the reality is the GOP couldn't pass this if 50 votes were required. Keep ignoring that fact though to blame the Dems as you pretend to be 'neutral'.
It’s pretty sad IMO, that any official publicly elected to represent US citizens, would ever put non-US citizens ahead of their own constituents. There was a bill on the floor to fund programs that would have benefited US citizens but the Democrats made a conscious decision to filibuster and reject that that bill because it had no provisions that benefitted non-US citizens. That is the very definition of putting the health & Welfare of non-US citizens above the Health & Welfare of US citizens.
Democrats don't give a damn about the "dreamers". They could have already received their security if the Democrats weren't insistent on holding open the floodgates for future generations of illegals. Pass the Goodlatte bill, (full funding for the wall we desperately need, mandatory e-verify, end chain migration, etc) and DACA could have been made into law, like yesterday.
That's not really true, if they merely needed 50 votes, they'd have them. The Republicans weren't going to shut down the government over not pushing parts of the DNC social platform. The major disagreement within the GOP is between a temporary funding deal and a long term deal. There's simply no argument for the shutdown not being caused by the Democrats, so you'd be better off just saying you agree with the shutdown than anything else. There's nothing wrong with you saying that you agree with the shutdown, but trying to pin it on anyone else is kind of ridiculous.
You have your crystal ball out again? I mean, this is some busted logic where both parties are supposed to work together but you will blame one party for all of the blame. But keep at it, #1 Trending tweet.... #TrumpShutdown, own it.
There were 46 republicans vote yes and 5 Democrats that voted yes. That’s 51 votes but they needed 60 votes because the Democrats filibuster. The Democrats put the health and welfare of non-US citizens over the health and welfare of US citizens tonight.
Yeah, both parties are supposed to work together and it's not working together to have the minority party say "Either further our social platform or we shut down the government". There's no compromise to be had there. Again, you'd have a completely different take if it was the Republicans who were the minority party choosing to shut down the government unless the Democrat majority pushed their social platform so just say that in this instance you agree with the Democrats holding the government hostage in an effort to push their social agenda. When the Republicans (who were the majority at the time) shut down the government over Obama refusing to allow them to crush Obamacare, it was the Republicans fault for shutting down the government, this time it's the Democrats' fault.....but I get why you can't allow yourself to blame Democrats for their actions.
Republicans campaign, fund raise, get out the vote, work their butts off and beat democrats to take control of Congress, the presidency, and most state legislatures. Now that they have done this, the Republicans are obligated to give Democrats what they want. This is the Democrat's logic. I'm not saying Democrats should give into Republicans because they are the minority party, but the idea the the majority party is to blame in a standoff is ridiculous.
Give it time, if the Republicans lose control and pull a stunt like this the exact same people who are blaming the Republicans for this shut down will be back blaming the Republicans for that shut down. Reason and logic does not trump tribalism around these parts unfortunately.
Republicans want to shut down the gov't so they can get political points. They did not want a deal. Apparently Trump turned down DACA in exchange for the wall. The are hoping the shutdown will hurt the dems and not Republicans. I think their strategy will backfire.
According to Schumer, he was even willing to give Trump the Wall and was still rejected. You are right, there is no compromise to be had here when the GOP is behaving this way. I agree completely with that. This is honestly irrelevant to now, unless you can show my posts with a contradicting opinion there is nothing else to be said on the matter of who said what and when. All I know is that there is supposed to be a compromise, the Democrats hold 49 seats in the Senate, that is to be respected whether you like it or not. It's not even giving in when it is something both parties want.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/19/16911148/government-shutdown-unified-control But...100% on the Dems, that's my completely unbiased opinion folks.
Nope. Nice try. https://fairus.org/issue/publicatio...n-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers Total government expenditure on illegal aliens: $134.9 billion. Less total tax contributions by illegal aliens: $18.9 billion. Total NET yearly cost incurred due to illegal aliens residing in the US: $116 billion.
Uninformed post if you have been following today what the deal was the Democrats were willing to strike. If you believe Schumer(you probably don’t but...), the guy put the Freaking wall on the table for crying out loud. They even were on the verge of agreeing to ending parts of chain migration. The biggest complaint folks from my tribe have is how bad the Dems suck at negotiating and give away the farm in bipartisan deals. Obama was the worst about this. He always moved first and allowed the hard right to get an upper hand. The fact is though... all this whining and complaining about Democrats is pointless because I guarantee you they will vote to get the government back up and running in due time. They aren’t going to let the military explode like the fear mongers on your favorite hate radio or tv station you watch and get your talking points from. The reality is though .... for a long term bipartisan solution FOR THE YEAR, the buck ultimately stops with leadership. To just completely absolve responsibility from Trump is bafoonery. He plays a major part in directing his party to the parameters of a negotiations and doesn’t drastically change his positions on a whim ON LIVE TV. This isn’t just rumors and fake news. This is reality tv presidency. We all saw it on live tv this past week. Trumps inability to do his job correctly absolutely plays a major role here and any single pointed blame to Democrats just shows the hyper partisanship and cultish like thinking folks like yourself have dived head first into.
Goes to show you just how extreme the obstructionism by the minority party is and how absolutely unusual it is. Shutting down the government by a minority party over not being able to push their social policies might become the new normal especially if the "RESIST" style proves effective.
Yes you mean social policies like stopping parents of legal immigrants migrate over? Or making children - who have done nothing wrong - of illegal immigrants leave the country to satisfy the red meat? And do you mean how the GOP is refusing to work with the DEMs because they clearly have calculated that NO DEAL is better for them as they can try to pin the mess on Dems. But let's be honest - this is all about the endless thirst and power the GOP's elites seek so they can continue to enrich themselves.
