House - GOP Senate - GOP POTUS - GOP Government Shutdown - GOP This is an example of yet again how far the GOP has moved to the right. There is a bipartisan agreement, then Trump torpedoed it, demanding a wall. GOP leadership plays alone.
It's comforting that the usual suspects aren't in here defending the dems on this one. Is there a scenario where the Schumer shutdown helps the D's in the midterms?
1. Walls work in limited usage case in point Israel, the parts of the border where we already have a wall, and areas that are limited. 2. Sorry, your party already cut meals on wheels which is much less than that, supports cutting to public broadcasting, NEA, etc. Those are far more valuable and cost less than the border wall. 3. We were promised that Mexico would pay for the wall. We were promised that by the lousy non-deal making non-promise keeping president that currently occupies the Whitehouse.
DO you lefties really not understand how stupid this logic is? Your claims give the minority party all the leverage because if the majority party doesn't meet the minority party's demands then the majority party is to blame. By this brain dead logic it would be in my political interests to have the political views i support be part of the minority party and not the majority party. Absolutely moronic. Good luck with the selling of this reasoning.
Leverage? You do know that GOP senators are not going to vote for the big right? The GOP doesn't even have unanimous consent for the spending bill. Also all the items the GOP are threatening the Dems about "not caring about" such as CHIP and DACA can be easily passed if the GOP actually cared about it in a clean stand alone bill. The GaoP took CHIP hostage by defending it last September and attach it to their draconian spending bill and act like the Dems don't want CHIP.
No, us lefties really do understand completely how stupid our logic is. We can only dream of having the solid consistent and rational logic of you conservatives.
Not sure why you are so pissed about this. Responsibility and the ability to govern is failing too often under the GOP controls?
In this situation the Dems actually have control because the GOP only controls 51seats in the senate. During a filibuster it takes 60 votes to pass a bill in the senate and the GOP does not have that many. Personally I say shut down the government. When the Democrats are ready to stop putting the needs in of non-US citizens over the needs of US citizens then they can come back to the table. Either way it doesn’t matter to me, it’s all just more partisan politics IMO.
No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn’t hold millions of people hostage. That’s what the other side is doing. That’s wrong and we can’t give in to that
It doesn’t matter if they have everyone on board or not, they still need 60 votes and 51 will not cut it.
Boy the GOP is having huge issues governing, sad, I think it's going to really hurt them in the mid-terms. Leadership under Trump has not been good for them or our country. I thought Trump was a deal maker?
