There's no question that the offense would have done better with Watson, he's good enough to overcome BOB being completely awful as a coach....well at least half of the time he is.
3-3 with two losses by a hair in New England and Seattle. If we stay healthy next season, we will be elite, regardless of what you think about BOB. Last time I checked BOB still has a career winning record playing mostly with low-upside backups at best. There are FAR worse coaches in this league, I've never thought much of O'Brien, but seeing Watson gave me some hope as to what he can do with a REAL quarterback. Because we haven't seen O'Brien operate with anyone better than backup material. People need to chill with these strong-ass takes. Your going to look so silly and salty when we win the Super Bowl next year.
As the saying goes: "You are what your record says you are". Sure, they had injuries and a clueless owner and a meh GM and a dumb organization. But nothing I've seen from BoB leads me to believe that he will be anything more than a so-so coach who will constantly need to "coach better". I understand that the company line going forward will "Deshaun Watson - Franchise QB" but It's a bit unrealistic to think that Watson alone can clean up the mess that is the Houston Texans. Teams have film on him now and you can bet that DCs will gameplan for him next season. It's also expecting a lot to hope that Watt, and the rest can come back and pick right up where they left off. As things now stand, with BoB you are most likely looking at another 9 or 10 win season while fighting for a playoff berth. That's better compared to what went down this season but really doesn't do anything to move the needle as far as making them legitimate championship contenders.
They were losses that would have been wins if the Texans had someone competent instead of BOB. I think that's the important part. Even with a QB playing at an absolutely elite level, BOB's incompetence is enough to still cost the team games. I can't imagine the team being good enough to overcome BOB's incompetence and win a SB, that's just asking way too much. Now with an average quality head coach, absolutely I could see it.
They’re going to have an off-season and some cap money to work with. How about we see what they do with that first before definitively stating what they’ll be next season?
I’d argue they lost those games because the pass defense was horrific. That leads me back to my concerns about watching Bouye and Demps walk away.
Gary Kubiak would have done the same thing, as would probably over half the coaches in the league. Sure, they were bone-headed calls, but hopefully he learned from it. Fans who call for coaches head over a couple of timely bad play-calls or certain instances of bad clock management are grasping at straws. No coach has ever been hired because they are good at "clock management". We almost put up 40+ in both games also, should be enough to win. But of course O'Brien had NOTHING to do with that (even though he runs the offense), he only has EVERYTHING to do with all the bad stuff. Convenient!
Besides, we all knew our rookie quarterback would play at an MVP level from the get-go. Coaching/preparation/gameplan had zilch to do with that. Oh but when our offenses stink? A true QB guru would have had Hoyer/Mallet/Fitz/Yates playing at Pro-Bowl levels, thanks for ruining what should have been super-bowl years butt-chin. Winning the AFC South and constantly being relevant/in the playoffs isn't enough when you have one of the worst starting QB's in the NFL, you should absolutely be winning Super Bowls or at the very least making deep runs in the playoffs. I mean, we only won ONE playoff game with Brock Osweiler? What a loser head-coach. The only other times that have had as much instability at Quarterback as the Texans are the league's bottom dwellers.
This. Very similar to how they let Glover Quinn get away from them prior to the BOB era... only one common person involved between those two regimes and those sorts of decisions (starting a rookie secondary in 2010... SMH). Meanwhile, Brian Cushing collected plenty of game checks this year... despite doing his best to be suspended for a good chunk of them.
Who knows, but who cares at this point? What's done is done, and we have a real QB now. I can't even really hate on the Osweiler signing in hind-sight. He was unanimously the best FA QB on the market, regardless of what people claim now, and we were in a desperate situation and had to be aggressive. The results were catastrophic, but the heads were in the right place.
Gary Kubiak was a legitimately good offensive coach, if the Texans had him, the game wouldn't have come down to one or two bone headed calls, the team would be ahead by enough to where that wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately they had BOB who is completely and totally incompetent so he was able to screw things up. Fans who call for coaches head over a couple of timely bad play-calls or certain instances of bad clock management are grasping at straws. No coach has ever been hired because they are good at "clock management".[/QUOTE] Oh don't get it twisted, I'm not calling for BOB to be fired for a few mistakes, I'm calling for him to be fired because he's never been a competent coach and his offensive system is stupid. When you get a Peyton Manning type QB that effectively is an offense by themselves you could make ANY coach look competent if you gave that coach credit for what the player was doing. My point was that BOB has ALWAYS been incompetent, even when Watson was doing damn near all the work for him.
But we don't have a real head coach. We had the worst head coach in the AFC South BEFORE the Colts fired Pagano, we'll almost certainly still have the worst head coach in the division when they get someone new.
Yep, they did, which makes it even funnier. At one point earlier he was blasting O'Brien for missing on Keenum's obvious star-potential, even though Hoyer's stats here and Keenum's stats on this season were nearly indistinguishable.
This just isn't true. Remember the Jets game in 2010? So many people want him fired for that. There are countless more examples, Kubiak was even more old-school and conservative with his play calling than O'Brien is. Your also claiming if we had Kubiak our offense would be EVEN BETTER than the highest scoring offense in the league. Bold. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Kubiak had a losing record here...
He was never given a QB as good as Watson. And I'm not sure about Kubiak's record here, but he left here and won a super bowl with a team that had Osweiler as statistically their best QB.....so you probably don't want to compare him to BOB who has shown nothing but incompetence as a head coach despite being given more than what Kubiak and Wade won a SB with.
