ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Celtics 12/28/2017

Ummmm. . . that OTHER guy you are referring to is injured and not playing, so . . . . .
Your point is moot

 

At this point, that is all that matters.

I like the Green signing though. He seemed to play decent defense in the game.

 

It's called adjustments. Great coaches do it.
You may have noticed the second half featured more double teams and aggressive D on Harden.
Factor two is that Baynes was inserted into the game as a rebounder/rim protector.
Teams figure out that when CP and Capela are out, James is the primary scorer. Go full bore after him on the perimeter
and when he drives you have a rim protector. With Capela out, we have no alley oop.

I get tired of seeing people say that James 'gave up'. Sure, he had to change his approach and started jacking 3's.
If you've ever played real organized ball you would know how hard it is to score as it is.
But, when you're double teamed, it's TWICE as hard.
Seems that too many posters on here are casual BB fans and only see Harden struggling without being able to see the other
factors at play in the game. Pay attention to the details and there is a whole nother game going on besides just
critiquing James Harden's scoring. It's still a team game whether or not some choose to think so.
It's not 1 on 5 out there. You have to have teammates that can function and help and when they are
not helping, the ship starts sinking. ERIC GORDON WAS THROWING UP AIRBALLS!
Besides the egregious flopping, the C's made some adjustments and they worked to shrink the lead.
You can blame it all on Harden if you want. But this team will change drastically when we get
CP, Clint and Luc all back on the court and healthy.

 

As long as we beat Boston at home, then I'm fine. If we get pussified in Houston, then all hell should break loose up in these parts.

 

Goat, I'm STILL waiting for an answer from you. You obviously want to dump Harden. You've gone on and on and on and on.

But who is your NBA player of choice to replace him?

All I've heard is your continual whining. You sure complain a lot, but what's you're plan B?
Either provide a solution or zip it. I'll wait. . . . .

 

Harden has an elite set of skillsets but also has some severe deficiencies that even average NBA guards don't have .That's the rub with Harden.

There are very few players I would take over Harden especially when we have CP3 which masks Harden's deficiencies quite well.

Curry, LeBron and Durant are three definitely choices. There might be some younger players that might be debatable or borderline.

 

Lots of Harden only fans here. Ricardo

I dont blame harden for the entire pathetic choke, just like 85% of it

 

I need to vent about Morey opening his mout big in the middle of the season. Where is his focus? Havent you learned anything? Our injury situation keeps being messy, just like it was when I first joined this fandom at the same time with Yao. At some point you just gotta shut your mouth about streaks, levels, risk profiles and keep working. How could you say we closed the gap, we dont even have a complete 60 win season with this roster.

I need to vent about Dantoni, seriously dude, it´s revenge time for you, for the franchise, for Cp3, for Harden and his lack of MVP hardware. How can you be so stubborn with your freaking rotations? It´s unbelievable! and the play calling, I get it, you get up big, but that´s the point, you can´t keep laying a game that helps the other team to come back. Talk to your star, have another option. Please!

Having said that, rough time, not a crisis, not even close. Looking forward to tonights revenge game!

Long season, we are becoming the juggernaut, we are not one, this is growing pains. first half was good with Tarik and Weber playing minutes.

 

Still waiting for a response from Brewer's Goat, the constant complainer.

I definitely agree with you on Harden and CP. They compliment each other very well.
But Goat has been campaigning to dump Harden.

Are Curry, LeBron and Durant realistic as potential Rockets?
LeBron MAYBE with the CP connection. But do we dump James for an aging LBJ? Bad move.
I've heard rumors about LBJ opting out from CLE and coming to HOU to play with CP and James.
Wouldn't mind seeing that happen, but would be foolish if we had to jettison a younger player in Harden.

All I'm asking is for people to THINK and be realistic here.
Vent frustrations? Sure. But constant complaining gets old. Campaigning for change requires having an alternate plan.
If you DON'T have a real alternate plan, then support what you have and do the best you can.
I'm only trying to eliminate the constant whining and criticism on this forum. People want to have fun, not
read someone's constant bickering. No fun in that

 

silver unrelenting in continuing to punish harden/morey:

Houston @ Washington Ed Malloy (#14) Brian Forte (#45) Jacyn Goble (#68)

 

Yup bipolar

 

You said Harden is garbage in the Clutch. The other poster said he was great in the clutch against Portland. You replied he hasn’t won a championship. I agree that is changing the subject.

 

The entire premise is wrong. It is not about clutch vs unclutch situations.

The difference is that Portland didn't press on Harden off and on the ball. Harden operates at an elite level when he has space. He falls apart when he doesn't have that space. Superstar NBA guards usually don't fall apart at the level Harden does when a team decides to press on said superstar. It's just exemplified in clutch time situations because NBA defenses will expend a burst of defensive energy at the end of close games and decide to press more often in those situations.

You don't think NBA coaches and staffs aren't noticing this? You are seeing more and more teams using this tactic on Harden because it works.

 

Actually, it isn't. Harden is better when we have to come from behind in the regular season against teams that aren't as good as the Rockets. He's a joke when trying to protect a lead. And he absolutely lost that game last night virtually by himself. But no I was not changing the subject. I was communicating with a sensitive and stupid Harden only fan who called me an idiot. Clearly you aren't much above his level.

 

but they didn't

 

Nothing to see here, move along.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/12/L2M-HOU-BOS-12-28-2017.pdf

The NBA's Last Two Minute Report states that both of James Harden's offensive fouls drawn by Boston's Marcus Smart in the final 7.3 seconds of the Celtics' comeback win were correct calls. However, the report also states that Boston's Al Horford should have been called for traveling before his game-winning shot.

 

I guess you were not that wrong in the end @kingkingston