I think I'm done with Star Wars after this. The force awakens was a nice trip down memory lane, but I just spent 3 hours, with trailers and all, to watch another generation of jedi's and the dark side trying to resist the force or wield it. I have no idea what the main goal was except to try and kill the rebels and it seems like a never-ending game of the harlem globetrotters vs the washington generals. It's like we are watching the hatfields and mccoys or if 40 years later bo and luke were still trying to escape from boss hog and rosco p Coltrane. I am sure some of you will grasp at any little nugget of new abilities that the galaxy has, but at the end of the day it is the same tired script over and over again.
Perfect example is Guardians of the Galaxy. Gamora, Star Lord, and Yondu (he died but wasn't as gruesome as you'd expect) should have all died given the time they were out in space with 0 oxygen. It's a freakin movie! About flying spaceships n sh**. Can't believe I'm agreeing with Bobby, but ya'll need to get over it!
I can live with the "believability" part of it. But the problem with this scene...as with much of the movie...is in the execution. That scene sucked.
I agree with that. It was a weird scene... plus I just started getting in my feelings thinking "dang, Leia is gone just like Carrie" but then that crap happened... "so she's not dead?" Not sure how this works out for the next installment. CGI I guess.
Ha. Definitely thoughts this was better in that it wasn’t a 100% copy of a story like the last one. But ultimately ... yes definitely it’s all the same **** over and over with no seeming connection to the “real” world even in their universe. Maybe the First Order is pretty solid at being in charge for all I know? There’s definitely a “who cares” element here that gets stronger and stronger with each movie
Those characters are aliens, we can believe they might have better survivability in space. But Leia is a human, and we know what happens to humans in space. They die. Immediately. Especially after being blasted by two missiles.
Is this not a story from a galaxy far, far away? So how do we know You can say this about most Hollywood films these days though. I get that feeling with Marvel quite a bit, and there are some of those installments that are pretty forgetful to me cause they don't do enough to elevate the story from the standard good guy with superpowers battling villain trying to take over the world/universe trope. I was worried after TFA that the next film in this trilogy would follow ESB very closely. But we didn't get that. At it's core, it's good guys battling bad guys in space, sure. But it was a bit different than what we've seen before from Star Wars, and I give that a win. Rogue One I loved because it was't a Skywalker Story, it wasn't Jedi vs Sith. And if Rian Johnson gives us an Old Republic trilogy (wishful thinking) that would, again, be something fresh while still following many of the same plot conventions we've grown accustomed to. Let's face it, there's not that many original ideas anymore, if any, just different and fresh ways of presenting them.
Darn, I really wanted to see them try and CGI her looking old, tight and beat or would they have shined her up...?
I'm guessing she dies off screen and they hold a funeral or something for her. They'll have to honor her in some way. Would be weird if she wasn't acknowledged at all. But the characters in Star Wars are alien too. It says it right in the beginning that this takes place in a galaxy far, far away. I dunno, considering all the fantastical things that happen in these movies, I throw all science out the window.
Half human, half celestial being. You guys are also ignoring the fact that she survived two missiles in her face.
Meh.. only if you want to go with that timeline.. or how about if luke came he'd come out of the cave w/ his light saber drawn looking for a duel. Then surely Kylo Ren, with Hux and the entire First Order looking on, would be on mission to prove he's more than capable of replacing Snoke by taking a ship down and taking on Luke 1 on 1 rather than the easy way out of firing guns. Hindsight!
In the, Kylo Ren caught blaster fire with the force and kept it there for several minutes. The Force is like magic in a less gay or girly way.
saw it on saturday and the longer i sit with it the less i like it. floating leia, the whole snoke build-up to just killing him off, the capt phantasma build-up and killing her off, the whole finn/rose sub-plot...they could have skipped that entirely and devoted more time to fleshing out who snoke was or more luke training ray. it was 15 minutes of wasted time. star wars is the story of the skywalkers and i was hoping to see luke play a bigger part in these last couple films. i hate the way luke died. it was kind of pointless and anti-climatic. the idea that those extra three minutes were what they needed to realize they had other escape options...seemed straight out of the walking dead-lazy writing playbook. now that carrie fisher is dead i bet they regret killing off luke instead of her.
They aren't regretting anything. They knew what they were doing. Except what they did was intentionally make a bad movie.
Too much deus ex machina is terrible writing. Leia has never demonstrated any force abilities to be that strong whereas Kylo is touted as Vader reincarnated and a powerful Sith lord. Finn landing on a rising platform after getting bested by Phasma was lazy. His one-liner was cheesy. And then the ground collapsing around Phasma while Finn's platform continues to raise just defies logic. This movie was TV-level writing. And TV still does it better.
I thought her survival was a decent twist to the trailers and Fisher's death. Everything in the movie was convoluted and it probably caused me to yawn out of exhaustion. Phasma's death was as bad as Boba Fett's, which is probably why Lucas gave a thumbs up to this one. A lot of things about this movie was a big red herring and a poke in the eye to fans that I found pretty amusing because there was a decent but overdrawn movie underneath it. The reaction has been a mix between the angry fans who just watched 7 seasons of Lost and a director who decided to crap on the source material of fanboys because he wanted to be artsy fartsy and "connect with the mainstream with deeper and realistic material". This is pretty much an effort to extend the franchise every other year instead of every other decade. They alienate the old fans to try to draw in newer audiences.
btw i never got the phasma hype. i mean i knew there was a hype from reading this forum and other user comments. but from just watching TFA, there was no hype. plus i thought she died after finn and friends threw her out the waste bin.
