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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. adoo

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    Traitor Jorge's convenient memory loss.

    in his first 6 mo of investigation, Mueller has gotten.
    • 4 convictions and 2 guilty pleads
    and he hasn't even interviewed Jared, Trump's gatekeeper, Rhona Graf, Cory L, and the Nazi Bannon yet
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Benghazi b****!

    DD
     
  3. No Worries

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    Your side is on the side of political dogma and innuendo.

    My side is on the side of the Mueller. He finds what he finds.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

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    [Educational Post]
    ...and not a single conviction or guilty plea had a single thing to do with Russians colluding with Trump to influence the election. Your level of understanding simply doesn't reach that of an intellectual who seeks a true understanding of the issue. Sadly, it is people such as yourself that have been duped by the collusion of the media and the FBI/CIA to propagate this false narrative. You've been used, and you don't even know it.


    GOOD DAY and MERRY CHRISTMAS
     
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  5. Aceshigh7

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    This.

    All process crimes and nothing to do with the supposed focus of the investigation. Russian collusion is a propagated myth and a complete dry hole.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    Read the Freaking Papadapolous guilty plea deal that explicitly lays out what Paps was lying about which is working with a cutout directly connected to Vladimir Putin to get “dirt on Hillary” which is the second documented case of Russian officials doing this with the highest levels. Flynn’s plea is about lying about discussing sanctions with Russia when the Trump campaign was not authorized to do so and when it conflicted with US policy (the payment for whatever Russia did for Trump).

    THIS is what “collusion” looks like.

    For the past two months even FoxNews has moved on from “they didn’t collude” to “collusion is not a crime”. The “there is no evidence of collusion” argument is so summer of 2017.

    Stop spreading fake news dude... and Merry Fing Christmas.
     
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  7. peleincubus

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    Hey man, good job. I am happy and proud you can still use the internet.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    100% wrong and false. Papadopoulos (you can't even spell it right) was indicted for lying to the FBI... you know, the same thing Hillary did 39 times and wasn't punished. Papadopolous allegedly tried to arrange a meeting with Russian officials -- the meeting never happened. This is the collusion with Russia that swung the election? Totally absurd. And one low level staffer attempting to organize a meeting with people in Russia is a far cry from a conspiratorial plot to influence an election. Now on the other hand... Obama's DOJ, FBI, and CIA attempting to rig and election, spy on Trump, and oust Trump before he was inaugurated is indeed a conspiratorial, treasonous plot. Flynn's attempts at contacting Russians were during the TRANSITION PERIOD, when he was attempting to do his job and avoid WWIII after Obama's absurd sanctions and aggressive actions toward Russia (to save his own hide and provide cover for this sham of an investigation). Those are the facts, young man.

    I repeat: There is absolutely no evidence that Trump and/or his campaign colluded with "Russia" to influence the election. None. And after a year of this breathless outrage, you still can't name a single thing that occurred to prove collusion. DaDakota can't. No Worries can't. The other intellectual lightweights around here can't. After a year of baseless accusations from all of you, it's time to face facts and admit that you were wrong. Or just wait and be even more humiliated when it's all laid out for you, which will be soon.

    I offer help. I am far smarter than you and far better informed than you. Believe my words and save yourself a tremendous amount of time and mental anguish.

    GOOD DAY and MERRY CHRISTMAS
     
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  9. dobro1229

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    Just because you are old doesn’t mean you are smart.

    Educational post:

    You are not.

    Any idiot can see that the Trump campaign coordinated and communicated with Russian officials and cutouts during the campaign. To what level and to what criminality is what a legit investigation is is supposed to provide. That’s the answers that you would refuse to believe regardless because of your partisan lenses. If you don’t see what is so obviously in front of your face you are a essentially a cult follower to Donald J Trump. I have to say of all the cult leaders in history to fall head over heals for I’ll never understand the dying obsession old farts like you have with such a clown who will sell your ass down the river at some point like he has to everyone else he’s had a business partnership with before in the past.

    “Proving collusion” to you is such a waste of anyone’s time because the whole concept of “collusion” to you will continue to have moving goalposts.

    Yes... they technically “colluded”. It’s there in black in white and it’s dumb to even argue with hacks like you about it.

    The CRIME though is “Conspiracy to commit a crime against the US”.

    With “Conspiracy” in regards to the hacking (which is the primary CRIME being investigated) we need to know what exchanged hands in meetings like the Trump Tower meeting, and were those Trump officials ever informed at any point that “Hillary Dirt” = stolen/hacked information. If they didn’t report that to the FBI, at the very least they are caught red handed as essentially an accomplice in the crime. I’m not federal judge or anything but I at least know very basic laws, and it’s obvious Trump officials are in deep sh$&, and at the very least they acted un-American, un-ethical, and really really stupid.

    The investigation should be allowed to finish, but you don’t want that because you are so scared your cult leader will be damaged politically. He already is. The very most innocent explanation is that his campaign acted highly un-patriotic and any person who puts country ahead of party should be ashamed of his campaigns actions.

    Go watch FoxNews, get pissed off at Liberals, Hillary, and immigrants who you think took your shitty job from you, and continue to live in your fact-less fantasy land old man.
     
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  10. El_Conquistador

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    Still no proof. None -- you guys can't even offer up a single piece of evidence that demonstrates collusion, after a year's worth of investigations. Can't even offer up one piece of evidence. Nothing more than hypotheticals and innuendo. Yet you are so resolute in your beliefs. Strong beliefs, weak minds. At some point you have to reassess your hypothesis in the face of no evidence. And that's where we are at as it relates to the Trump/Russia collusion false narrative.

    On the other hand, we know for a fact that Hillary and Bill took millions from Russia. We know that the Obama Administration spied on the Trump Campaign. We know that Peter Strzok hates Trump and worked with Andy McCabe on an "Insurance Policy", which of course is the Russian charade. We know that the FBI worked with Mother Jones to feed leaked information to advance their objectives. We know that the Clinton campaign and the FBI funded the now debunked Trump Russia dossier. We know that this same dossier was produced by the FBI as a way to get FISA court approval to spy on Trump (after being turned down the first attempt). How can you not re-evaluate your opinion after a year's worth of coming up empty and now these factual revelations? Seriously? It's time to rethink where you stand, because you are clearly on the wrong side of the truth here.

    GOOD DAY and MERRY CHRISTMAS
     
  11. Ubiquitin

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    It does not. For some very important reasons like Hillary emails or the Clinton Foundation or Benghazi or Uranium One or White Water.
     
  13. a la rockets

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    You talk about proof. Can you also prove all those clame ? And by that I mean hard tangible proof, not just some obscure article from Breitbart or whatever.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    Now you guys are just grasping at straws. Are you suggesting that a comment from Trump about "loving dirt on Clinton" is evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia to effect the 2016 election? Somebody call Mueller and alert him to this rock solid evidence! That's absurd and quite honestly, brain dead. It's laughable.

    Can not a single person provide a shred of evidence that supports this collusion? A year and this is the best you can come up with? It's a joke.

    What's not a joke is the actual collusion that took place with Obama, the FBI, DOJ and CIA to spy on Trump, exonerate Hillary's crimes, rig the election for Hillary, and then attempt to overthrow our democratically elected President.


    GOOD DAY and MERRY CHRISTMAS
     
  15. a la rockets

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    Ok so you can’t. Thanks
     
  16. No Worries

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    Word on the street is that Bob Mueller does not care what your opinion is.
     
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    It’s not our job. Thanks.
     
  18. Ubiquitin

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    Will Chris Paul play tonight? How much will the Rockets win by?
     
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  19. a la rockets

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    My bad, I was replying to Trader Jorge ;)
     
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  20. Ubiquitin

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    If the Mueller grand jury ends up nailing Trump for money laundering for international crime syndicates or something equally as serious, rather than direct Trump to Putin level collusion between Russian and Trump campaign, would the GOP raise a stink and claim Mueller overstepped his power? Didn’t Bill’s impeachment result from a Whitewater grand jury which was an investigation into bad loans in Arkansas and whether the Clintons were involved and they nailed him on perjury for a BJ with a White House intern.
     

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