Wow seriously?! I thought that rotten tomatoes score was a bit low compared to critics. How petty can you be?! http://www.thisisinsider.com/star-wars-last-jedi-backlash-rotten-tomatoes-bots-2017-12
Spoiler: mindless conjecture Im with you. This is a weak ruse and feels obvious. Im going with obi wan or aunt berus slutty niece as the parents. It doesnt matter but i think its a misdirect. I was hoping rey and kylo would hook up or something more compelling. Thats a missed opportunity. adam driver can carry his weight but it does feel weird in that hes mad but seems more teen angsty. Its not really clear why hes mad now? Because he got punked by a holographic luke skywalker? None of that is compelling. It looks like driver has just finished having a good cry in every scene. hes looks like he is from seattle. I feel like if the resistance offers him some smokes and a flannel sweater he might be cool with stepping down. You burnt your bullets quick killing off han and luke. Now Im in it for chewie and what they will do with this angsty character. I will see the next one along the lines of watching texans. More leaning towards the comedy relief dept. In the next sure you can get into all the imagery of driver being some kim jong hitler type and make him all mad ...but he doesnt seem like a bad dude. And not all that evil...From his side luke was trying to hurt him, he didnt shoot his mom, killed snoke etc.. He was ready to give 50% to some rando chick that shows force capabilities. This isnt even jerry springer compelling. No cops have been called ..no paternity tests. That scebe where they used the spaceship to slice the other ship using light speed was f**ucking awesome. F you for telling me they could have done it earlier based on your assumption of star wars physics. You might be a redneck..no you might be a nerd. People keep talking about knowing this or that about the force and we just saw all kinds of new sh**it that can be done with the force youve never seen ...so f off with any notion of what. You have no idea and its in disneys hands now biotch
Haven't seen the movie, but I have to wonder: all of the "what the heck was that scene about?" might be answered by the next movie. I have to think The Last Jedi is like the awkward middle part, with a lot of its weird bits setting up massive conclusions in the next (and kinda "last") film. I'm probably giving them way too much credit, and I'm still planning to skip it.
you should definitely see it. for all it's fault, it was a good movie. as far as people being irked, tfa did a whole bunch of setting up for this movie... and then they didn't address much of it. it's like jontro been pre-fapping for this babe who's about to enter in 5 minutes... but she never came in. jontro got all hot for nothing.
Uhh...why can't it be the other way around...that the audience has it right and the "critics" have been incentivized to pump up the score? Citing Cinema Score as "legit science" is rediculous. It's fanboys on the high of release night...hardly a diverse cross section of viewers. It was a bad movie...that's not the opinion of some wounded fan wishing for yesteryear, but a sound conclusion from evidence. The writing wasn't brave...it was lazy. The characters are all forgettable and the main plot line that drives all the action is a starship that runs out of gas...think about that for a sec. LUKE SKYWALKER DIES FROM EXHAUSTION. All of inferences made in The Force Awakens are answered with "nevermind". It's an epic that lacked anything epic. They could have cut 2 hours of it out and ran this as a tv episode.
I didnt say do not transition . Of COURSE its about brand new people for newer crowds. I like ALL the new characters. Just do the characters good BEFORE or DURING the transition before their exit. I'm saying BECAUSE they are old on limited time, and Disney lucked out even getting all the OG's in the first place, to USE them up BEFORE they're gone for good. They did exactly that with Han Solo, he undoubtedly was Han. They've milked Carrie Fisher and Leia every ounce they could, (and were gonna do it AGAIN next film). But Mark Hamill was put out to literal pasture in Ahch-To, the actor who wanted it the least, and the CHARACTER that needed it the least (and fans who want it least). Christopher Lee was OVER 70 doing lightsaber duels. Alec Guiness was in his 60's fighting toe-to-toe with Darth Vader, without help from cgi. 70+ Harrison Ford in FA was running around the galaxy blasting things like Death Star 1977. ALL of their characters DIED and thats fine to get rid of main guys. But they died with their BOOTS ON, they werent all moping around detached wondering the f*** they ever applied for the job to begin with.
Did you complain about how Yoda died when he was "put out to pasture"? I mean, the way Luke went out was just a combination between how Yoda died and how Obi-Wan died. There are some legitimate complaints about the movie, this isn't one of them.
First off, I didn't like their treatment of Luke because Han got a great reunion with the fans. I do respect the risk taking but the whole ending was unnecessary to the point of meanspiritedness (to the fanboys). That's 20-40 years of unmet expectations that some people will have to retreat to their fan fiction to shake off... Anyhow, I thought that Yoda scene was the most poignant to the direction of the series. On second viewing, I noticed that Yoda was different because I remembered the CG Yoda from the prequels. It was jarring but not as disturbing like the first time. This one was supposedly a puppet as well, so that I guess the only difference was that he smiled more often and DGAF as much with worry. Cuz he's dead, Buddha-like and all that...
Spoiler to Spoiler Spoiler On #5: The kid was giving direct SALUTE to Luke Skywalker and his legacy. He was playing with homemade Luke figure, inspired to be like Luke and dream into the stars. Its also symbolism of US as kids enjoying SW the same way. And it is a foreshadowing of whats to come like Haymitch mentioned. Plus it ties into the new realization that the Force isnt just limited family bloodline. Its actually a neat idea, I liked that touch. But like most the good ideas in this movie, for such a polished production a lot of them oddly fell flat on execution.
That makes sense as to why it would be so low, I mean it's lower than Justice League, lower than BVS, lower than Suicide Squad and that's just ridiculous. There were flaws, but it's one of the best Star Wars movies ever made....it shouldn't be rated lower than The Fate of the Furious or Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. That said, when there is a large gap between the critic's score and the audience score, I almost always watch to see which is right and which is stupid. In this instance I'd watch to find out that the unwashed masses are stupid.
i do wonder why the resistance doesn't give rey a new set of clothing. her rags doesn't seem too comfortable when fighting. at least something with a low cut that shows a bit of skin.
Its like we have to fill in blanks that SW creative team can't Spoiler I think the Dark Side cave scene was either/or 2 things: (1) Rey came from nothing, her parents were nobodies, there "nothing/nobody" is the response she got from the cave. Seems to be the kind of symbolismd and parallels Rian Johnson does (2) Rian Johnson being contrarian to expectations, just for sake of being different I lean more toward #2. He just didnt know when to quit. Any "twist" idea, he felt it was so relevant the the movie Like you I'm glad she was NOT Skywalker lineage. And its a different shock reveal than ESB, where Luke was NOT seeking meaning of his roots but got a sh**y revelation about it. And Rey WAS looking for her roots and also got a sh**y revelation, in a different form.
Spoiler The FULL "Jar-Jar" / George Lucas Original Trilogy edits / Approaching SW Christmas Special excess (As of now there's still TIME for Xmas though!)
Spoiler one point I keep hearing people make is that broom boy tells us all the Force isn’t limited to one family. But how is that some new revelation. We’ve seen Yoda, Obi Wan, Mace Windu, Darth Maul and a crap load of jedis in these movies prior to this. If someone thought the Force was limited to Skywalkers then they weren’t paying very close attention. Didn’t need corny broom boy scene to let us know that.
***-Spoilers-*** (although I'd say you should read these before viewing...) Problems with the movie: 1. A ship that has to bomb like a WWII bomber is in a Star Wars movie. 2. Leia floating in Space. 3. Casting Laura Dern & the entire "Empower Women" stance. 4. The stupid Asian mechanic. 5. The entire casino scene. 6. The stupid "animal rights" pitch with those stupid horsey-ish creatures. 7. Luke being a p***y. 8. Ghost Luke. 9. Luke dying of exhaustion from being ghost Luke. 10. Too much build-up to have Rey's parents explained in a one-liner. At least let her meet or know something about them. Anything. Really. 11. Snoke getting Force-F***ed by a light saber. 12. BB-8 taking over an AT-ST. 13. The whole Finn & Rose kiss. 14. The fact that Kylo Ren is an Emo punk. 15. The Kylo/Rey talking & seeing each other sh*t. Why couldn't Luke and Vader have done that? 16. A bunch of birds getting housing in the Millennium Falcon - Soley done for merchandising. 17. The unnecessary attempts of trying to insert humor into the movie where it wasn't needed; especially the Hux/Poe trade-off. Is this Star Wars or Fletch?? 18. The slowing down like it is 1999 and actually doing an already decades overdone "Matrix" scene. 19. The absolute sh*t CGI in this movie. I thought they had learned their lesson from the prequels. It still looks like SH*T. 20. Did I mention Leia floating through Space?
Don't know who's making that point and I haven't seen anyone say it myself, but I had no problem with the boy and his broom. The Resistance was pretty much completely shattered by the end, but the spirit of the Resistance (and the Rebellion before it) cannot be killed. These slave kids of the First Order Military Industrial Complex will be a part of the change for their generation.
I think there were two reasons for broom boy: Spoiler 1) To show that the Resistance has become a symbol for people. It's no longer just those few people left. Others will join the Resistance. 2) To show that by Luke opening himself back up to the Force and becoming one with it, he has opened it up for other people as well. Luke has been trying to end the idea of the Jedi, he didn't want anyone to use the Force so he closed himself off to try to end it all. Once he opened himself back up to it, he sort of "allowed" others around the universe to use it as well. This is why he told Kylo Ren he "wasn't the last Jedi".
