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[Movie] Star Wars Episode VIII

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  1. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    1.The Empire Strikes Back
    2.Star Wars
    3.Return of the Jedi
    4.Revenge of the Sith
    5.The Force Awakens
    6.Rogue One
    7.Attack of the Clones
    8.The Phantom Menace
    9.The Last Place Jedi(Awful Movie!):mad:
     
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  2. Joe Joe

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    Loved it.

    Some scenes were awkward, but still an enjoyable movie if one takes into account that the force defies science.
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    Um...the original cast is dying off. Carrie Fisher is dead, Harrison Ford is over 70, Mark Hamil is 66. You have to transition before they are not around.
     
  4. watashi315

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    I completely agree with you on every single one of your points. Well said. Rian Johnson and Disney really dropped the ball on this one. I'm surprised the critics were raving about it. Makes me feel like they got paid off by the studios.
     
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    Saw it over the weekend. It was an okay movie. A lot of the things that happened didn't make since to me tho

    So a major point of the movie was to destroy the tracking device, but they didn't even do that. We go on a slow car chase through the galaxy couldn't the First Order have cut them off at some point.

    They didn't meet up with the codebreaker which is fine and happen to find another codebreaker in their cell. I guess that was the force. Is Del Toro's character going to be a throwaway? I was hoping he was going to come back and help them to redeem himself but he just shuffled off.

    I liked Luke's last scene overall, but was disappointed when I thought we were going to see him max out his power in a fight, but oh well.

    Why didn't they tell Poe the plan?! They could have avoided the whole mutiny. What was the point of that!

    Also Snoke went out like a b****, but that whole scene was pretty cool though.
     
  6. Haymitch

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    Mark Hamill is an old man. I'm not sure him in a lightsaber fight would have been all that great. Maybe with excellent stunt double/CGI trickery... but still, I think we got the best fighting that he could possibly do, even if it was a force hologram.
     
  7. MadMax

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    1. Ironic, because I think the 93% critics score is completely ridiculous;

    2. Except that’s not my experience or the experience of the people I know (friends and family) who disliked this movie. Hell, I was on here defending The Force Awakens repeatedly....and was defending Last Jedi saying people should see it before judging it. In fact...I used your argument to defend Kylo Ren...that people complained he was too different from Darth Vader but hated the movie because it was too similar to A New Hope. But I did not like this movie at all...for all the reasons I stated in my “essay”
     
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    I think Johnson will be fine in the spinoffs. Thats actually where he'll shine the most since its an open sandlot to play in, not having to stay too true to source material.

    He's a fan of SW and a good guy by all accounts. Everyone's been calling to CHANGE SW and he did just that. He did put thought into his movie. But for the MAIN SW saga (in his OWN words) he used some key elements simply as a plot device to move the story, which probably needed more depth than given. He might have soured enough people where they don't want to see his future works lol
     
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    For the Yoda scene, He tells Luke "There is nothing in that library that the girl Rey doesn't already possess." In one of the quick shots at the end on the Falcon, Finn opens a drawer to get a blanket for Rose, and there you see all the Jedi books from the tree. Rey took the books, and Yoda knew this. He blew up the tree for Luke's sake. That Luke should move on from the old way of doing things and that he needs to learn from his failure and look at the present...the next time we see Luke, he is on Crait confronting Kylo

    The point of this shot was to show the audience how Finn, Rose, and DJ got First Order uniforms to disguise themselves
     
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    I enjoyed the movie. I think there was a lot of wasted time. We could have had the same movie in 45 minutes.

    since we're giving our rankings
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  11. MadMax

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    With regard to #3...thank you. I honestly missed that.

    With regard to #6...i get the context...just seemed silly.
     
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    BDT's character's main purpose of this story is to show Finn who he will become if he doesn't choose a side. BDT's character doesn't have a name mentioned, but the film's marketing calls him "DJ" which stands for "Don't Join". BDT is only in it for the money, much like Han Solo in A New Hope. And in a New Hope, Han decides at the end to help the rebels destroy the Death Star. This is what Rian Johnson was going for with Finn (who ultimately joins the Rebels), and he used BDT's character DJ to help Finn

    Basically Laura Dern's character felt responsible for her plan failing, she felt like sacrificing herself would make up for that
     
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    The light speed scene was freaking beautiful on imax. I loved the silence and black and white scene. Though it does open up questions of why people haven't weaponize this yet. Since space crafts as small as the x-wing can go into hyperspace, creating a hyperspace drive equipped missile should be very doable and impossible to block since space crafts in light speed can go through shields.
     
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  14. MadMax

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    With regard to 8...I'm not sure you sign on an actor of that caliber just to do that...and none of that moved Finn's character forward..we are right back where we were in Maz's spot in The Force Awakens. As with most parts of this movie, it was poor execution in my view.

    With regard to 9...I know why she did it. I don't know why I was supposed to care...zero context for her...poor storytelling. I think the script and the execution on the story he was trying to tell was just flat out awful.
     
  15. samtaylor

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    I understand why a lot of people don't like this movie. There are a lot of tiny things that can easily go unnoticed, things that foreshadow future events, and things that if you don't catch can leave you confused or upset. I feel like this movie needs multiple views to catch everything, and a lot of people don't want to feel like they need to do that for a Star Wars film, which is a valid point. These are fantasy movies to escape to and enjoy, not ones to think about extensively.

    This movie takes lots of risks, in humor, in characters, and with the general audience's knowledge of Star Wars. We have built up Luke to be this amazing, perfect hero for the past 30 years, and

    Rian Johnson tears that apart, and present's Luke as this failure with personal demons he is unwilling to overcome

    People have spent 2 years talking about who is Rey and where does she come from

    Only for her to be a nobody

    And TFA introduces Snoke as this powerful being and Palpatine 2.0

    And Johnson uses Snoke as a obstacle for Kylo to overcome, which improves Kylo's arc even more, but leaves Snoke's backstory and understanding of the character to be desired

    I really liked this movie. It's the first Star Wars film that wasn't by George Lucas, or by someone trying to emulate the past films. This is Rian Johnson's film through and through, and that's why a lot of people are turned off by it.

    It's still not a perfect movie, I disliked things about it, and thought a few things could've been easily better, but overall, I loved the character development of Kylo Ren and Rey, as well as all the visual direction.
     
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    Put me in the - LOVED IT - group. That's all. No need to rehash any of it.
     
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    when kylo asks rey to join him she should have said yes then they show them killing everyone and roll credits. Then we could have the whole next movie with luke bad assery and trying to fight/fix the two. It WOULD have been epic.

    My other beef is why did luke die? From using all his energy to project himself to other planet like that? Yoda lived to be 800 luke is dying at 60? Pass the torch to young folks but we still have a cgi princess leia? Lukes death and how and why is most disappointing part of the whole deal.

    That said this movie blew away the force awakens. I thought the concept of rogue one was silly so I didnt see it.

    1.empire strikes back
    2. New hope
    3. Return of jedi
    4.last jedi
    5.revenge of sith
    6. Force awakens
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    I enjoyed the movie 7.5/10...It did feel like the whole movie was one large chase scene though
     
  19. MadMax

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    I appreciate your thoughts on this, honestly. I'm totally cool with people liking a movie I didn't like. Less cool with people saying that someone is stupid/dumb/whatever because they did or did not like a movie. Seeing way too much of that online about this movie. It's certainly proved to be divisive, that's for sure.
     
  20. Haymitch

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    Regarding Rey's parentage...

    I was very glad that she was, as some have said, a nobody.

    I remember a common gripe with the prequel trilogy was "this makes the whole Star Wars universe so small". And that complaint had merit, I thought. Star Wars should be more than "The Skywalkers and Their Pals".

    I was hoping all along that Rey wasn't some secret Skywalker kid so her parents being randos was great for me.

    Although her Dark Side cave scene really didn't make any sense to me.
     

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