1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Astros Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. BMoney

    BMoney Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2004
    Messages:
    19,305
    Likes Received:
    13,049
    Chris Iannetta signs with the Rockies- could this mean Lucroy to the Astros?
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  2. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    26,365
    Likes Received:
    16,695
    If he was a free agent, he would get a deal similar to what he has left though without option being so in favor of Stanton. Sure, it would be worth probably 30MM AAV for a decade, but teams understand that he'll likely be worth about 40-50 million/year 1st three years and probably closer to 10-20 MM/year his last three years.
     
  3. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    If this is the case, why would he, in 3 years, be offered $30MM/yr if he were to opt-out? If that's the valuation - that he's getting part of his payment for the next 3 years in the backend of the deal, it seems stupid to opt-out because the next team wouldn't pay him that.
     
  4. Marteen

    Marteen Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Messages:
    2,844
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    I'm aware it would jeopardize the Astros chances of locking their core, but I'd go for Stanton. The FA class for next year is gonna be huge and will probably tilt the scales to whichever team benefits the most from it (most likely the Yankees). You take Stanton away from the Yankees or Dodgers while actually improving your already dangerous lineup. I trust Luhnow if he passes him up but am hoping it doesn't bite them back in the playoffs next year.

    But I guess it's better if it bites them in the playoffs next year than years down the line with the core? I don't envy Luhnow's position in this. lol
     
  5. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,087
    Likes Received:
    176,355
  6. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,694
    Likes Received:
    65,837
  7. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    If Stanton goes to LAD...my god. We may be forced to be Cubs fans.
     
  8. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,694
    Likes Received:
    65,837
  9. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,665
    Id rather he go to the Dodgers than a AL playoff contender. But if we are thinking 2018 WS, then we better hope we dont have to face the Stanton Dodgers. Or, we better have more and better upgrades ahead than what ive seen tossed around so far.
     
  10. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,694
    Likes Received:
    65,837
  11. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Plus, the baseballs will be softballs in the next World Series.
     
  12. SooneRockStro

    SooneRockStro Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 1999
    Messages:
    6,596
    Likes Received:
    4,157
    This honestly feels like a situation where whoever loses out on Stanton becomes a winner. We've seen big boppers like him have dramatic drop offs. Ryan Howard once hit 50 too. This past season was a direct result of a juiced ball. I'll be surprised if he doesn't regress next year. Plus we are more focused on power with exceptional contact. Doesn't Stanton strike out quite a bit?
     
  13. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,665
    In the long run, that may turn out to be true. But in the next 3-4 years, or longer, this guy is going to help his team win. And much beyond 3-4 years, our future has its own questions.

    In addition, it is common place to sacrifice in some fashion to be better. We chose to be terrible for 3-4 years in order to be good again. Someone will be willing to be better now and sacrifice down the road. We did this ourselves in 2004-05. I think the days of a team sustaining dominance for long periods of time may be over. So instead, you try for a few years of it.
     
    #993 jim1961, Dec 8, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2017
  14. Marteen

    Marteen Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Messages:
    2,844
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    Keep in mind that he also said Verlander was too expensive for the Astros.

     
  15. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,694
    Likes Received:
    65,837
  16. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    Jeff Passan is reporting Yankees are getting close to landing Stanton.
     
  17. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
  18. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,665
    Were dooooooomed!
     
  19. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    People here routinely were telling us all season that there was a 0% chance we could beat the greatest-team-ever Dodgers this season too.
     
  20. Hemo_jr

    Hemo_jr Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2017
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    88
    The Astros were able to pitch to Judge, they'll be able to pitch to Stanton. Both have holes.
     

Share This Page