[Sexual Harassment] House Rep, John Conyers, allegedly accussed of sexual harassment

A lot of these defenses especially number 2 sound very similar to what was said to defend Bill Clinton in 1998.

 

I'm not really surprised that allegations are out against a prominent member of Congress and I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg regarding Congress.

 

Bring him down as well....i hope all these pervs fall

 

If it's true, he should resign or get kicked out.

 

Bump for a true Icon. From NBC....

Pelosi praised Conyers, who has denied the allegations, as an "icon," questioned the identity of his accusers and declined to call for his resignation — all within moments of having hailed the "zero tolerance" movement against sexual misconduct as "transformative ... so wholesome, so refreshing, so different."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-stumbles-alleged-harassment-her-own-ranks-n824041

 

She screwed up that interview. No way around that.

But are you also going to post the news today that Pelosi is working with the CBC to get him to step down from office?




Are there any reports out there that Paul Ryan is working to remove Donald Trump? Will Mitch McConnel expell Roy Moore if he wins? Where is the outrage when both sides PUBLICLY defend the people they work with on a daily basis and often have close relationships with? Is it abnormal for a House leader to stand with one of their congressmen publicly even when they are wrong on an issue? Does this condemnation of Pelosi get reversed by you if he is removed behind the scenes?

Look it’s empty if Pelosi doesn’t get Conyers removed but at least report the whole story here if you want to have a serious discussion about the topic.

Let’s stop the nonsense on this and act like us liberals are hacks on this topic. I and almost every other liberal leaning poster I’ve seen has said Conyers, and Franken should step down. I also think if it happened to today, Bill Clinton should have stepped down and let Al Gore take over. Republicans will never say that because no way in hell do they want that standard set for their tribe too because Donald Trump wouldn’t be president, and they want Roy Moore, a pedophile, in the Senate.

So let’s cut the BS about Pelosi unless you want to tell the whole story about sexual assault and harassment with our poltical leaders and how everyone is handling this wave of cultural change.

 

He should step down. As should Franken, Moore, and Trump.

 

I agree mostly, but what new revelations have come out about Trump since he won the position? The accusations against trump arent new and the people voted him in after that information was known.

 

Pelosi is now publicly calling on Conyers to resign.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politics/nancy-pelosi-john-conyers-resign/index.html?adkey=bn

Nancy Pelosi calls on John Conyers to resign
(CNN)House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday called on Rep. John Conyers to resign following allegations of sexual harassment against the Michigan Democrat.

"He should resign," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. She said the allegations are "very serious," "disappointing," and "very credible." She added she prays for him and his family.
Pelosi would not say if she has told this to Conyers directly yet.
Aides told reporters that Conyers was hospitalized for stress earlier Thursday.

 

Another issue I've heard regarding Conyers is that age is taking a toll on his ability to do his job. I've been hearing some stories about odd behavior, not sexual, such as that he's been showing up at his office in pajamas and been very confused at times. If any of those are remotely true then he needs to step down for the good of his constituents.

 

He should resign, Trump should resign, Franken should resign, but none of them will, that's how the system works.

 

Okay so at least we have some baseline that Congress is adhering to.

You have both house leaders calling for Conyers’ removal. Now we get to see the consistency on both sides of the isle and the follow through.

 

If things are really so bad with Conyers this might be a situation where the House should act as a whole to remove him. The last time that happened was Jim Traficant (FYI a Democrat) in 2002.

 

Why should that matter?

If that is the case then Moore should run, and Franken etc should stay in office and see if they are voted out.

 

I agree with that. None of those guys should resign over sexual harassment. There should be ethics investigations and consideration of an impeachment/expulsion. That's the system we built for accountability within the Congress. Aside from that, it's only on the voters. I think it's pretty cowardly for a body that has the power to expel a member to instead ask him to resign. If it is really the will of the whole body to expel him, expel him on the record; if it is not, the resignation would undermine that will.

The more bureaucratic stuff about using taxpayer dollars to settle lawsuits is what pisses me off. One, taxpayer dollars should not be used to pay lawsuits (or legal fees) resulting from personal conduct. Two, if it is the Congressman's office settling and not the individual Congressman, it should be public record. Three, all uses of taxpayer money should be public record. Fourth, it is inappropriate for Congressional offices to ask anyone to sign confidentiality agreements. This is the crap that really needs fixing. A public record of a sexual harassment settlement would kill almost any political career. Of course, they could still perhaps settle privately as private citizens, assuming the complaint comes in a civil claim and not as a complaint to the Speaker/Majority Leader, just as it is for any other citizen. But, at least it would remove the office and the tax payer from complicity.

 

So the accusations against Franken were known when he was elected? OK

 

What difference does that possibly make?

When he or anyone else is up for re-election they will be known and the electorate can decide then.

The fact that Trump's actions were known BEFORE he was elected really don't matter.... if your position is that the voters should decide and their beliefs upheld, then the only fair thing to do is let all of these POS stay in office and see what the voters do when they run for re-election.