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What do liberals think about about Ben shapiro?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jaru, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. London'sBurning

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    I'm not religious but isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins? I think pride should be designated for personal accomplishments from which you had control over. Get your own small business off the ground and it's from your own hard work ethic and good ideas? Take pride in that for sure. Play in a band and you guys are making great music? Absolutely take pride in that. Likewise for any personal accomplishments that matter to you.

    But I don't really get pride involving that which you had no control over. We don't get to choose our skin color, our sex, what country we're born in, our ancestry; I understand liking who you are as a person and if you're white, you should like your appearance but pride just seems like the wrong vocabulary choice there. My cousin could just as easily say, I like myself as a person, and no one would bat an eye. Instead he picks out one feature that makes up himself and makes that stand out. To me at least, it shows he doesn't got much else to be proud of which sucks for him.
     
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    Then wouldn’t there be no such thing as “being black” too? They can be Egyptian, Nigerian, Panamanian, Dominican, Puerto Rican.
     
  3. RocketsLegend

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    You seem like one of those self loathing white liberals who always brings up the oppression of people of color due to American imperialism during national holidays.
     
  4. RocketsLegend

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    btw Ben Shapiro is great. Logic over feelings or as he likes to put it "facts don't care about your feelings"
     
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    This is something that Mr. Shapiro would say and I mean that as a compliment. I also find it funny that RocketsLegend is against the comments you made, seeing as he is one of the last rational "right wing" public speakers left.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Reported. This is the wrong forum for politics. That your "opinions" appear to be at the middle school level simply makes the offense worse.
     
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  7. London'sBurning

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    LMFAO. Try harder buddy. I come from online video game community. If I can tolerate hearing a squeaker in CS call everyone a f@g, I can handle your bull$hit too. Step up your troll game bruh.

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  8. CometsWin

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    When you're a descendant of ancestors that are kidnapped, raped, murdered, enslaved, and deprived of their language, heritage, traditions, and religion it's tough to know what country you're from. "Being black" is a very intentional creation by those who invented race to unite Europeans, who would typically hate each other, against sub-human Africans.
     
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  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I don't live my life by George Carlin skits. There's nothing wrong in showing pride in your culture and heritage, things thousands of years in the making that are carried on via tradition and ritual through generations. That is a remarkable achievement far more difficult than anything an individual can do on his own and something to be proud of.
     
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    then you should have reported every post in this thread including the thread its self.
     
  11. Deckard

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    Nope, just you.
     
  12. RocketsLegend

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    sad
     
  13. Deckard

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    I agree. You truly are.
     
  14. RocketsLegend

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    great
     
  15. Deckard

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    Thanks for the compliment!
     
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    Care to provide some examples of traditions thousands of years old? I mean I guess religion right? Yet, we got religious folk that are convinced their religion is right (I mean why choose to specifically practice that one religion if you didn't think it was right) while diminishing the rich culture and history of other religions that have a differing viewpoint. Our nation isn't even thousands of years old and we deal with division regarding what to do with preserving statues of extremely controversial figure heads much less come up with a unanimously agreed upon approach towards equal human rights and opportunity for all U.S. citizens; I think at least some of those issues stem from a clash of cultures in the U.S. and pride over which culture is superior which is a personal preference and what you're accustomed to.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    Not thousands of years old necessarily but thousands of years in the making. Languages, traditions, religions, foods, music.

    I think you're arguing whether people should have pride in heritage or culture because it inevitably leads to conflict particularly in a multi-cultural society. Question to me is whether that pride subjugates others. Does an Irish-American celebrating St. Patrick's Day subjugate my culture? Chinese New Year? Oktoberfest? No, because that has nothing to do with putting me down whereas the Confederacy is a movement born of white supremacy. Gigantic difference.

    BTW, I find it entirely possible and okay to reject religion as a belief system but value the traditions that they've built.
     
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    these guys are the new super church pastors. quick easy money if you've got no shame.
     
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    It's a bit, not a skit. And no there's not anything wrong with taking pride like that, it's just silly to have pride in something you had nothing to do with.

    Plus, I could be wrong, but aren't you no more related to your great great grandfather than you are to any random person around you (or something like that)? That being the case such "pride" would be even more silly.

    And further isn't that kind of a good, uniting thing? That we're all similar for the most part? That we're all in this together? That's how I view it, at least.

    And lastly, we need more George Carlin, not less.

     
  20. London'sBurning

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    Yea I was more or less basing my argument that pride is considered one of the seven deadly sins and that pride is typically synonymous with superiority, right or wrong. I'm all for multiculturalism and think immigrants that come here ultimately mix their homeland's culture with a unique American twist anyways even if they try to remain separate. A melting pot and also separation of cultures each have their place IMO. Sort of like Tex-Mex vs traditional Mexican food. I think Tex-Mex is great but I can appreciate a more authentic Mexican dish too. Just from speaking to my mom who was born in Austin and actually had former Governor Ann Richards as her school teacher, it's interesting getting her perspective on what Austin was like growing up.

    She dealt with far more systemic racism growing up. My grandparents on my mom's side only spoke Spanish, yet forced her and my other aunts and uncles to go to schools like Fulmore which only spoke English. She learned English while at school, and was constantly made fun of for her accent and attempts to better enunciate which just comes with practice. She recalled packing tortillas, beans and rice for lunch and all the white kids made fun of her for being a poor Mexican-American. Now she laughs (not maliciously, just a reflection of the changing times) that all these white people around Austin pay for the same dishes they used to make fun of her for eating as a kid. All my aunts, and uncles with the exception of one completed college and did well for themselves and their families. Not bad for coming from parents that at points in their lives were field workers. I take pride in knowing that same work ethic and drive that courses through my family's veins also runs through me and helps affirm where I came from and how I got here.

    Likewise for my dad's side of the family that's white. Dad came from a family of seven brothers and sisters who all did well for themselves. My dad's family also came from a humble upbringing in north Texas. Also incredibly strong work ethic and authentically good people. I take pride in that too, but that's more on the type of people my family are and less so their preferred cultural pride identity (LOL wot). I think if asked, they'd all just say American anyways like I would. End ramble.
     
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