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Colin Kaepernick protests anthem due to treatment of minorities

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    That's frankly inaccurate. He's not a hoodrat, he has always led a very privileged life, he knows nothing of the hood or true oppression.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Oh good, whew, I won't have to waste my time with a Traditional Values Warrior who when provided evidence and proof will just deny it go "I'M RIGHT! YOUR WRONG!" over and over again until they can't be convinced otherwise.

    You should follow the advice of the man you have in your quote there and actually think a little bit more bigtexxx...man 'I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate.'
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Proof?

    Bobby, what do you think about black people being overrepresented in regards to exonerations?
     
  4. ipaman

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    he's not, his weak ass protest is hoodrat bro...
     
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    Even if you don't agree with what is being protested, taking a knee during the national anthem is about the most harmless way that someone can protest what they perceive as injustice. Unfortunately, there seems to be a surplus of old white people who think it's their place to tell young black athletes how and when to protest racial injustice.
     
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    "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

    Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." ~ Martin Luther King Jr

    In the end, all that is being done is a simple knee. That's all.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Really? So in your mind, there's no external factors that cause random traffic stops the escalate into shootings? Other than the racism boogie man I guess. C'mon man, you're better than this.

    Makes sense, charged more, exonerated more.

    The problem here is that you are desperate to see racism in everything.....and that's why people like you get embarrassed so often when you jump the gun trying to paint every situation as an example of racism only to discover that it isn't. I understand the desperation, you've based your entire world perspective on the notion that black people are oppressed and it's so very hard to find legitimate examples to confirm your beliefs that you have to latch on to anything that can be spun as an example of it. That's why you get duped by incidents involving criminals like Micheal Brown and outright liars like Micheal Bennett.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Racial pity party alert! I won't waste my time. You argue but cannot back up your claims.

    See Dr King's message below and consider your error.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    So, no proof then. Got it.

    Lol, to be exonerated you have to be falsely charged in the first place.

    So black people are more likely to be falsely charged, this is cool with you?
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    Actually, I did back up my claims. I was proven right and you were proven wrong. Sorry, you lose!

    Man, this is easy. No wonder so many of you do it!
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, no you don't, you just have to beat the case. OJ was exonerated, was he "falsely charged"?

    As to people being "falsely charged", I have no problem with it if they are being exonerated and neither should you. If the evidence of a case points one direction, you have to pursue it. If the person can defend themselves in court and show that it's possible they didn't do it, they walk. Did you have a problem with Darren Wilson being "falsely charged" after the shooting of Micheal Brown? Did you have a problem with Zimmerman being "falsely charged" after the death of Trayvon Martin?

    I'm guessing not.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Apparently so, he beat the case, didn't he? Are you saying he's guilty and the justice system is wrong sometimes? This would not be very consistent with your views Bobby...

    So, you have no problem with black people being falsely charged just to spend years in prison for a crime they didn't do. Got it.
     
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    lol keep on justifying discrimination.

    Instead of supporting laws that help to mitigate name discrimination, just keep hand-waving the issue away. In other words, be completely useless and perpetuate unfair discrimination.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    How would that not be consistent? Of course the justice system is sometimes wrong, when have I suggested otherwise?

    When it comes to being falsely tried or falsely imprisoned, of course I'm against it, but it's something that will occasionally happen due to the human element of the justice system. Most of the time things will work as they are supposed to but there's always going to be room for error and that means with enough cases, you'll have instances of those types of things. You try to minimize the frequency of mistakes, but they'll happen no matter what. I mean, that's just life.

    Keep pretending like you don't understand what I'm saying if you like, you aren't fooling anyone. Even worse, I'm willing to bet you'd engage in the exact type of "discrimination" you are whining about in the right situation and you wouldn't think it was wrong.

    Hate to break it to you, but names matter. Give your kid a stupid name like Jimbo or whatever and they'll have to work to overcome the disadvantage you gave them. As it turns out, it's become popular for people in certain communities to do that to their children recently. You really can't blame anyone else for it.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/wrongful-convictions-race-exoneration.html

    Both of these are insanely high, too high, and this is wrongfully convicted. That's just life isn't an excuse for that.
     
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    I did not dispute the study, I am calling into question the importance in applying the results of that study with the report mentioned in the Vox.
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    Honestly, that's fair.
     
  19. StupidMoniker

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    Since about half the people convicted of murder are black, it would stand to reason that about half of the exonerations would also be black. That is just evidence that black people are falsely convicted at the same rate as everyone else. You would only use the general population numbers if there was a chance for every member of the general population to be exonerated. Of course there is not, you must first be convicted.
     
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    Dam dude it came from the man mouth what the hell are you thinking.Your wrong just admit it.
     

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