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Colin Kaepernick protests anthem due to treatment of minorities

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BleedRocketsRed, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. ipaman

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    More lies which makes debating you all a waste of time. Kneeling for national anthem = stupid if protesting LEO racism and discrimination is and has been my position. it's low effort, low hanging fruit protest, that completely undermines and destroy the message. literally one of the worst forms of protest I've ever seen when it comes to effectiveness. BLM (without the violence which hurts cause) marches for example seem many many times more impact and effective.
     
  2. ipaman

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    removing all context and common sense to create a fake logic scenario is amazing!!!
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    By this logic, that means you should also be outraged along with Marshawn Lynch?

    If you consider his personal experience as valid, then why the attempt to invalidate his form of protest?

    I guess.

    All I know is from history is those who try to tell you when and how to protest aren't on your side.

    I mean you say BLM marches had more impact and effective, but the right decried these as well.
     
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    You are upset that he stood up for the Mexican flag due to autrocities committed by Mexican police and the Mexican federal government.

    Therefore, assuming you are consistent, someone should be as deserving of your respect and empathy if they kneel for the US national anthem as you have admitted that standing up for an anthem for a country that commits autrocities emotionally impacts you.


    BTW, I know you are trolling and are not emotionally invested in the autrocities of the Mexican govt.
     
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  5. ipaman

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    If you DON'T DO SOMETHING for a SOMETHING and then within minutes DO IT for someone or something else that is EVEN WORSE than the SOMETHING you are against then you're an fraud and an idiot.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Or maybe he saw himself as a guest in another country and didn't want to make a political statement about a country he is a guest in and doesn't have enough information on?

    I mean I understand how that conclusion seems too reasonable for you and it doesn't allow you to go on faux outrage mode so you'll dismiss it.
     
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  7. ipaman

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    This of all things infuriates me because I've got aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews, who live in fear every single ******* day, having to pay bribes to keep making **** wages as a taxi driver or risk losing their taxi cars, or pay taxes to police or drug soldiers just to leave and enter your own neighborhood, family members who have lives have been lost or impacted, etc... EVERY ******* DAY YOU FACKING PIECE OF ****!

    Honestly never in my time on CF.net has a post or poster infuriated me to the point of getting emotional as much as you and this post has. go **** yourself you piece of **** and that comes from me and dozens of family members.
     
  8. ipaman

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    Yea I'm so outraged that I support with time and money anti-corruption, anti-drugwar in Mexico for years ever since I can remember. I've bailed out family members, sent money over, etc... Real impact for real lives. Not some fack ass bullshit.
     
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    Bro. Nobody buys your anecdotes.
     
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    I don't know how effective these protests really are but I just don't see it as my place to criticize how and why people protest certain things when I haven't been in their shoes and experienced the things that they have, especially when it's something as harmless as kneeling for the national anthem. You might feel differently but I just think there are a lot of people who are cherry-picking what they constitute as patriotism, that's all.
     
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    keeling for one is great but don't stand for one that's worse. that's all i'm saying and it's our right (talked to mom, and a few others last night & this morning) to feel that way.
     
  12. CometsWin

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    Dude lost it even more than usual. The holidays can be a stressful time for everyone.

    Oops, forgot my inflections.

    Dude LOST IT even more than usual. The holidays can be a stressful time for "everyone".

    o_O
     
  13. ipaman

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    your b**** ass wouldn't last a day in mexico dealing with what I had to and what my family still goes through every day.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Do you honestly believe Lynch was standing for the Mexican anthem to make a statement or was it because maybe he was a guest in a country and doesn't have any nuances understanding the country and hence made the political nueatral gesture of standing as everyone else did?

    Your entire faux outrage is built on a premise that Lynch was playing a game of 'comparative politics' when in reality when you apply Occam's Razor, he most likely stood for the Mexican anthem because he was a guest in a foreign country, a country he doesn't have enough nuanced knowledge of to make a statement.
     
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    holidays, give me a facking break. burying family members because of american drug usage and american drug war or listening to your cleaning lady aunt cry on the phone while she explains the "fee" (which is damn near half of what she made cleaning houses) she has to pay to get back into her neighborhood. that's the **** that will make you crazy or someone mocking it.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Do you kinda see why most of the board thinks you are in high school?

    You have two children?
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/0...akland-area-youth-they-love-him-they-love-him

    Maybe time to take back what you said about Mr.Lynch here.

    It's obvious that he can kneel AND also do charity work for his community.

    I mean the guy started his own foundation...

    https://fam1stfamilyfoundation.org/pages/about-us
     
  18. ipaman

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    i believe he's an idiot who only thinks racism and discrimination affect less than 12% of folks like most americans who think usa is the center and the whole of the universe. you i believe are a fake tough guy who hasn't seen or dealt with any real **** so you have b**** ass opinions.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    At this point I really hope you are still in high school. Just because then you would have an excuse that your frontal lobe isn't fully developed.
     
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    Don't even know what you're talking about.
     

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