Driver runs over pedestrians, potential shooting in NYC

Trump labels US justice system 'laughing stock'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/01/politics/trump-justice-laughing-stock/index.html

 

Umm, no. Guns were made to kill people efficiently, Trucks are not. How are you saying this is incorrect?

I don't care about one being protected by law. Sometimes, laws are wrong. It was once protected by law that you could own human beings, so try a better argument.

Yes, guns are super important. This is why countries that don't have them get along just fine without them, right?

You need guns to protect yourself from other people that have guns. If the attacker does not have a gun, any other weapon will practically do.

 

You heard it here first, folks. Greatest inventions of all time:

1. Gun
2. Wheel

 

Lol, no country can get along just fine without guns.....because countries with guns would just take them over.

If you mean that countries can get by just fine in a police state where only the law abiding public is disarmed and the government ensures they stay that way at gunpoint....well let's just agree to disagree about that being "just fine".

 

Name a country without guns. I'll wait.

 

WTF...

Do you think anyone is arguing for a gun ban that is taking guns away from the Military? You know that's not my argument.

We are talking about the actual cities, communities, etc within the nation. Trucks and transportation are far more important than guns.

Also, plenty of countries have banned guns or have strict control over them, and they are just fine without them.

 

oh, so wait, now you are telling me guns ARE important? LOL again, you know they are, it's just not something you want to admit right now. There are no countries without guns that do "just fine" even if there are some police states that use their guns to disarm the law abiding public.

 

guns are far more important than trucks. 95% of the trucks i see on the road are by stupid high school kids who don't need them. But again this is all pointless because you haven't explained why guns and trucks having different uses matters.

 

Who said guns aren't important?

Nice strawman you've built there.

 

No, guns are not far more important than Trucks. Not sure how you are getting goods across the nation, good luck with that. How do you transport cars?

It matters, if you think it doesn't matters than maybe we should all have nukes. I mean, why does it matter what they were designed for, right?

 

I think Nuke is too much but everyone should have icbms in their back yard, it is arms after all.

 

Weird. I've spent 30 years of my life without a gun and one with a gun, and the only difference in my life is that I now have to worry about my kids access to it.

Now, I imagine my life would be dramatically different without automobiles.

 

Oh no, now we started the automobile vs gun debate? Automobiles are far more dangerous and have killed countlessly more people than guns in this country.

 

Actually the numbers are very much countable.

 

Not sure why this is being debated. Of course cars/trucks are far more important than citizens owning guns.

Having said that, it doesn't mean the debate ends on what gun ownership should or shouldn't be in the USA.

 

how did this become about gun again

 

And comparable when you include suicides.

 

Quick. What is the percentage of vehicle used outside their intended purpose aka their fail rate?

Come back me to me when the amount of people who use vehicles as weapons exceeds the amount of people who use vehicles to transport them from point A to point B.

Because that is the predicament of firemars in this country. The use of firearms to murder someone exceeds the amount of times they are used in a justifiable manner of self defense.

In other words it's failure rate is over 100%. That's absurd and any other product sold to the market that held those same failure rates would be shunned out of the market.

 

He stated his feelings about Martin that was not politicizing a tragedy even 43 wouldn't politicize tragedies so to answer your ? Yes i would if it had been done i would have felt the same.

 

On the question of whether gun ownership is as important as truck ownership, the logical way to look at it is to compare the utility provided by each. People depend on trucks for transportation, and often to be able to do their job. As such, our economy depends heavily on people’s everyday use of trucks. The supposed utility of a gun is to make the owner safer. Does that actually happen? Evidence suggests the answer, on average, is no. Even if one wants to dispute that evidence, the question of whether personal gun ownership makes the public safer is, at best, debatable.

So from the standpoint of utility to the public at large, this is really a no-brainer. Of course, gun enthusiasts gain personal utility from their guns that has nothing to do with safety. They use it for recreation. They collect them or pleasure. The same may be true for trucks, though I would guess the level of personal attachment isn’t the same. How much should we weight utility of this sort when crafting public policy intended to protect people against terrorist / psycho mass shooting attacks?