It's not like Anderson has been evoking shades of Antoine Walker either. Last year Anderson shot so rarely that despite being a 40% 3 pt shooter he just contributed around 2 made 3s every game. People always defended that by saying Anderson's threat at the 3 pt line makes up for the fact that he doesn't shoot. Well in this case that "threat theory" should also apply.
He's responsible for his contract, he's the one who asked for it! You think if he went to houston and asked for just 7M a year they would say no? It's not like they paid Beverly 18M a year also wtf. How come Gordon despite being universally recognized as the better player between the two just signed a 15M per year deal? You'd think if Anderson was some dumb schmuck who would have accepted any deal the Rox gave the Rox wouldn't have given him 7M a year? That's their standard deal for role players, just ask Bev, Ariza and Brewer. Asking to separate people from what they do is a joke, you never do that in real life. When you take out food and get a burger with no patty how come you take it out on the cashier when you get back? It's not her fault, it's the crew member who assembled the patty! When your boss gives you the pink slip, how come you start resenting your boss, it's not his fault the board of directors wanted to cut costs! When somebody crashes into you car how come you get mad at him? You didn't even ask him if he got chewed out at work that's why he wasn't himself and wasn't paying attention. Nothing we ever do is 100% our own, every action we do in life has some input from others or our environment. By your own logic Ryan Anderson should be shining D Morey's shoes and giving him shoulder massages everyday, apparently Anderson's salary has nothing to do with him, it's all on Morey. That's right Anderson didn't earn a single cent of his current contract, he has no value on his own. If Morey wasn't dumb enough to give him 20M a year then Anderson would be begging on the streets.
You'd have someone worse so you can sign somebody better. It's not like Houston would pocket the change obviously they would use it on another guy who'd be better than Ryan ****ing Anderson. Duhhhhhhhhhhhh. You are either trolling at this point or just dumb.
LOL. So the team gave him the contract because he asked for it? Morey: Hey, Ryan. How much do you want? Anderson: Hmm, I guess 80M is what I want. Morey: Sure. Sign here. Thank you so much for your service! I am not asking you to separate the player from what they do, which is playing basketball. I am asking you to separate him from what he didn't do, which is making up the contract. Does that make sense to you? You really think it's the non-star players who decide on the contract? I have no problem criticizing his performance. But hating him just because the team gave him a fat contract is just irrational.
Living up to his contract is not his problem. Playing the best he can is. If someone willingly gave you 80M for something you can't do very well, would you refuse? Better, if more than one company offered you similar money, would you refuse? Honestly? Don't be a hypocrite. Morey: Ryan, we think you are worth 80M for us. Anderson: No, no, no, no, NO! Don't do that to me. I can't live with myself for taking that kind of money I am not worth. Please, PLEASE, don't force me to hate myself for the rest of my contract!!
I just get tired of hearing about how Ryno is the reason we lose every game. Every single loss, 30 Ryno threads are bumped saying how bad he is. As if there are no other issues. He's the scapegoat.
Living up to his contract is not his problem?? I can’t believe u just said that. When somebody gets a contract or a certain salary, yes, I expect them to give a good return on investment or there will be an issue. What world are u living in?
Every team needs a goat. Now that Brewer is gone, Ryno fits right in. The irony is this. Brewer has never been even a decent shooter. He's a career 28% 3pt shooter. Yet people blamed him for not being able to shoot. They should either blame the coach for putting him in the position of a shooter in the offense, or blame the GM for even getting him when the team needs good shooters. Then we got Ryno, who is a career 38% 3pt shooter. And people hate him for not being able to shoot when in fact he shot 40% last season and is shooting 38% this season so far, right on what we should expect.
Again, if more than one company gave you a pile of guaranteed money to do a job you know you can't really live up to, do you: A. Refuse the money? B. Hate yourself for not being able to live up to the money? C. Try to do the best you can? You still haven't addressed the point: Who is responsible for the contract? Anderson or the team management?
because your point is irrelevant I would take the money, but then I’d also understand that people will flame me if I don’t come close to earning that money So just because Morey gave Ryno a contract fans shouldn’t have an issue with Ryno not coming close to living up to it? Maybe that’s the case in your world, but it’s not in mine. If u don’t live up to your contract, then expect to get heavy criticism.
Remember Rockets signed (overpaid) for Ryno to his current (bad) contract because of the spike in the salary cap. Back then, it was widely regarded as a fine (not poisonous) contract. Now, Ryno's contract suddenly becomes problematic because something happened with the cap unforeseen by Morey, and some other GM's, that also gave out similar contracts to medium talent like Allan Crabbe, Bazemore, Bizmac, etc. (I'm not a capologist). Ryno wasn't brought here to be a "corner-stone" player, he was brought here to fit a role to give James Harden more freedom in the MDA system and shoot threes. So, when fans say "Anderson doesn't live up to his contract." I wonder what that means now. I expect Anderson to shoot; everything else is bonus. For example: Chandler Parsons was paid (MULTIPLE TIMES) to be THE GUY he hasn't lived up to his contract(s). Barnes was paid to be THE GUY; has played well at times, but hasn't been max money great. Ariza, the first time as a Rocket, was signed by Houston to try and be the guy. didn't work out. So when you say "Anderson is not living up to his contract", do you mean he isn't shooting enough? Well enough? Do you guys want more of what he has never done in defense and rebounding?
I don’t recall Ryno’s contract being widely regarded as fine at the time of the signing. I saw many people saying that it was a really bad deal and would be very hard to move since it was 4 years fully guaranteed at that salary. The Crabbe, Baze, and Bismarck deals were all seen as bad from the jump too. When I say that he’s not living up to his contract, I’m saying that his production and impact on the game does not come close to being worth his salary, and in a league with a salary cap, that can’t just be ignored. One of his biggest issues in my eyes is that he can’t make anything at home and is often not aggressive. I used to find this Home Ryno vs. Road Ryno thing amusing, but his percentages at TC are a joke. He missed his 1st 19 threes at home in the playoffs and played miserable at home for the most part. That’s half the games where he’s a non-factor. He will never live up to this contract, but with him playing like a dude who’s worth 8-10 mil at best while being paid 20, it should be expected that fans will have issues with him and that he’ll become a target. I’m not a Ryno hater, I don’t blame him after every loss or trash him all the time, but I desperately want an upgrade and his contract off our books ASAP.
You still don't get the point? Or still don't want to address it because you know you are wrong. Who was responsible for the contract? The player or the management? So when the fans have an issue with the contract, who should they hold responsible? The player or the management?
I think many fans here are mad that we gave him the contract, and complain about it when he has a bad game. I don't think most of us that are complaining actually hate Ryan Anderson.
fans will get on Anderson because his production and impact doesn’t come close to matching his contract...I don’t feel like saying the same thing over and over it should already be obvious to u that people get on Morey for handing out that contract and Ryno for not playing anywhere near what his contract demands, but perhaps it isn’t...
according to your logic we shouldn’t hold players accountable for not living up to their contract...that’s not how this works If u are highly paid and not producing, then u will become a target for criticism.
Believe it or not, I actually understand that it is easier to target criticism toward players who are overpaid. Just because it is understandable does not make it rational. It is irrational to criticize a player more than others because he makes more money. Anderson is playing like what he has always been playing. It is totally misguided to think that a player should suddenly play outside of his abilities simply because he is given more money. I am sure that Morey did not expect Ryno to be anything more than what he is when he signed him. Whether he is worth the money is an entirely different issue.
