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Big Bob currently under fire: "Cant let the inmates run the prison"

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by donkeypunch, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. SamFisher

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    Misunderstanding of what?

    Why don't you explain exactly what you were trying to say?

    I read it as "haha hypersensitive players dad joke " but maybe there's some meta **** that I missed here.
     
  2. zeeshan2

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    Florio: After the game, still raw feelings in the Houston locker room. Brown told reporters the meeting they had Saturday didn't go well. Brown continues to be upset. Hopkins was repeatedly asked about the situation & all he said was the Seahawks played a great game.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Duane Brown has such a clear conflict of interest I really don't give a f**k what he thinks.

    The rest of the team, and the future is certainly a concern though.
     
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  5. Hank McDowell

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    Duane Brown is a cancer that needs to be removed.
     
  6. Cstyle42

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    It's an issue that Bob needs to iron out. The players in this league don't need to have a bad taste in their mouths regarding him as a chairman.
     
  7. Hank McDowell

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    To be fair, Bob McNair and Rick Smith are equally malignant. I'm sick of the entire damn bunch right now.
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    What I don't understand about this is, if you have an issue with something your boss says, why don't you go to him and talk to him? And why don't you handle it internally?? This whole thing is stupid. I found myself not really caring about the game yesterday.
     
  10. red5rocket

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    Well you missed a great one
     
  11. Air Langhi

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    What if your boss is a racist? I think I would quit.
     
  12. davidio840

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    But is Bob racist? There is nothing that indicates he is racist at all. Hell the GM is a black guy lol. I, in no way, am saying what Bob said is right, but in the grand scheme of things, what he said isn't a "racist" slur either. The people that are insinuating all inmates are black are the racists ones in my opinion.
     
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  13. J.R.

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/29/texans-kneel-protest-mcnairs-comments

    ... Instead, Hopkins found himself surrounded at his locker. A team employee packed up his equipment bag. He then performed his best Marshawn Lynch impersonation, answering any question even remotely related to McNair with some variation of “Seattle played a great game,” an answer that was at once true and incomplete.

    “Any football questions?” Hopkins asked.

    There were those of, of course. There had to be. Quarterback Deshaun Watson proved on Sunday that he’s a revelation and should win offensive rookie of the year. The Texans may have fallen to 3–4 but they looked like a playoff team at CenturyLink, gaining 509 yards and hanging 38 points on a defense that perennially ranks among the best in the NFL. Hopkins said he took no moral victories. He said he was proud of his teammates. He didn’t say why he left practice, other than, “I play football for a living.” He didn’t say what he felt about McNair, other than, “We’re not going to be affected by anything around us.” He didn’t say how Coach Bill O’Brien handled the mess that was last week for the football team in Houston, other than, “Our coach is trying to win football games just like we are.

    His most illuminating answer was also his saddest. When asked if this was the weirdest week he’d had in five NFL seasons, he said no. “I’ve had family members murdered and played that week,” he replied.

    Hopkins’s catches, his actions (on Friday and before the game Sunday) and his teammates—they spoke for him. Teammate, anyway. Most of the Texans treated the open locker room period (quite fairly) like a fire drill, dressing so fast they bound outside with ties askew and shirts unbuttoned, anything to avoid addressing their owner’s comments. Some players, like backup quarterback Tom Savage, described the “dialogue” that took place on Friday and Saturday as productive. Others, like left tackle Duane Brown, said “not that well” when asked how McNair’s meeting on Saturday with the players went.

    Brown, a 10-year NFL veteran, served essentially as the unofficial team spokesman. So many reporters crowded around his locker that they blocked the path from the shower to other lockers. Brown oddly took a question about football before the McNair queries started. Then he answered them, calmly and politely and honestly. It was, frankly, a clinic in crisis management that many teams could learn from.

    He admitted there were emotions before the game on Sunday but said the Texans were not distracted by what seemed obviously distracting. He said they “felt a huge sense of unity” when they knelt. He said he didn’t have an issue with the mostly white players who stood beside or behind the kneelers. He said he didn’t look at them any differently, that everyone could make their own choice.

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    All hell had predictably broken loose late last week. McNair issued one of those sorry-to-anyone-I-offended non-apologies on Friday, then met with his team and released a second apology Saturday that attempted to clarify that by “inmates” he actually meant the league office and not the players.

    “Nobody believed that,” Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin said. Definitely not Hopkins and rookie running back D’Onta Foreman, who had both skipped Friday’s practice. “I’m not surprised,” Seahawks defensive end and chief activist Michael Bennett told The MMQB. “I think a lot of guys wanted to walk out but [they] were the only ones brave enough to do it. On our team, definitely a lot more guys would have walked out and not showed up. I’m actually surprised more [Texans] didn’t [walk out].”

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    All Sunday morning, speculation swirled on social media as to what the Texans might do. Some suggested they might rip the decals off their helmets. Others said they planned to kneel as a team, or not come out of the locker room altogether. There were even more extreme rumors that maybe they wouldn’t play. “It’s one thing to say that …” Bennett said, trailing off.

    As game time drew closer, the usual pre-game machinations unfolded without incident. A drum troupe took the field, and then the Seahawks cheerleaders went through their routine. Seattle’s punter, Jon Ryan, boomed practice punts between gyrating dancers. It was cold, gray and misty—a typical Sunday in Seattle—as photographers turned the Texans sideline into a mosh pit.

    At 12:53 p.m., Houston’s players stood in the visitor’s tunnel near the south end zone. They bounced up and down and waited to be released onto the field. Most jogged onto the sideline, past the photographers bundled all together, with tight end Ryan Griffin sprinting to the opposite end zone, where several service members stood, waiting to unfurl one of those field-width-sized American flags. The players knelt in the end zone, as if in prayer, and then ran back to the sideline, where they slapped fives, bumped fists and jumped up and down.

    At 12:56 p.m., the Seahawks ran from their own tunnel, as fireworks shot skyward from columns and the team’s mascot, Blitz, looked for players he could chest bump. This was the rare instance where the home crowd focused more on the other sideline. Almost every seat was filled. The defense was introduced and Bennett ran first out of the tunnel for the starters. He waved a white towel and stood near the entrance, hyping up his teammates, before taking his usual place on the bench for the anthem. He, too, looked across the field.

    Two minutes later, all the cameras pointed toward the Texans’ bench. The flag was unfurled on the north side of the field. Service men and women marched and the first notes of the anthem played. At that moment, the majority of the Texans, at least 40 players, knelt on their sideline. I counted 10 members of the team, mostly white players, who stood. Many of those who stood rested hands on kneeling teammates. The rest knelt together while cameras trained in on their faces and a national television audience looked on.

    “What did you expect?” Baldwin said. “I mean, Bob McNair, hello, you can’t say those things. You have to be smarter than that.” Baldwin wore a black shirt with “equality” across the front, as he added that while others believe McNair’s comments could unravel the progress made in recent months between players and owners, he saw what McNair said, while “disgusting,” would spur more dialogue, leading to more change.

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    Bennett declined to say how many owners might feel the same way as McNair. “I hope none,” he said. But he knew that wasn’t true. He knew that in the same ESPN story Redskins owner Dan Snyder was quoted as saying 96% of America wanted NFL players to stand for the anthem. Maybe 96% of Snyder’s America, Bennett said. He laughed, then turned serious.

    “I was surprised [by the inmates comment] but then I wasn’t surprised,” he said. “Some people think like that. They look at us like that. It’s like you live in a world where people are in denial of racial tension. I just feel like it’s time to put that in context. This time we’re living in has a lot of people on edge right now. There’s racial tension going up and down.”

    That tension existed even in the Texans locker room once the game ended. It existed mostly in silence and not what was spoken—clichés, love for Watson, much on the emergence of wideout Will Fuller—but what went unsaid, which was what it meant for these players to hear comments like that from their owner, come together and play the way they did.

    “At this point, we’re all just going to play for each other,” Brown said. “I’m sure [the McNair comments] will come up again at some point.”

    As the Texans trudged out of the locker room, trucks were backed up to the doors, the doors open. Bags were being loaded. A buffet was mostly being passed. Hopkins walked out into the night, with the rest of his teammates. Crazy week. Insane game. Strange season. All that continued Sunday night.
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    I am not saying he is or not, but the players seem to believe so. I have no idea.

    However if I believed my boss was racist I would quit.
     
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  15. ipaman

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    If you don't like your boss you can quit.
     
  16. ipaman

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    I posted this in the Yuli thread "Remember when Shaq was caught being racist to East Asian folks and all the players kneeled. Yea neither do I. "

    That's my biggest beef with the players. They are inconsistent, hypocritical, easily confused, and **** stirrers. I don't even know what exactly their kneeling about anymore and neither does the rest of the country. Some of the players probably don't know either.
     
  17. conquistador#11

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    props to the players for playing for each other. I thought they were going to throw the game. Instead it was the irish tea pot man who threw the game!
     
  18. FLASH21

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    My background or education has nothing to do with it.

    BTW, he's still a **** boi.
     
  19. pgabriel

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    I hope you don't think the comments warrant throwing a game

    The drama over this is ridiculous.
     
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  20. texian

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    Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative, but that's who he and Jones were yelling at. There were no players in the room.

    Some owners didn't like Goodell and his employees making important decisions instead of the owners making those decisions.

    Now you can argue owners vs Goodell -- choose your poison -- but the above are the facts.
     

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