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Big Bob currently under fire: "Cant let the inmates run the prison"

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by donkeypunch, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    this whole thing is absurd, he made one poor analogy and apologized for it

    people feel empowered by their own sense of victimhood, what a bunch of drama queens
     
  2. red5rocket

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    So because he apologized, everyone can move forward just that fast?

    Whether what he said was wrong or right, once someone becomes offended, especially in a work place (as some players seemed to be), then the issue needs to be addressed. Both parties, being the players and Bob, have to sit and talk about this so that they can have a better understanding of what was meant. It’s going to take time and if it doesn’t work how they feel it should, players have until their contracts are up to decide where they want to play. This isn’t going away any time soon.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    It should be addressed to clear the air. The sad part is it shouldn't, it is very clear that he meant that they can't let employees dictate where the business is headed. That's what that phrase means.
     
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  4. FLASH21

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    Yeah you're definitely the comprehendingly challenged.

    You were saying that players are stirring the pot to gain attention and blow "minor sayings" out of proportion, when I pointed to the fact that no one on the Texans would need to seek attention from leaving practice, attempting to leave, or having their wives comment on social media on their behalf. Not one person has singled themselves out by raising a fist, staying in the tunnel, kneeling or anything of that sort. So why tf would they seek to do that now?

    Do you follow? Or are you still completely behind the 8 ball... slow self
     
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    First, those words never came out of my mouth. What was said is that there is no reason to be offended by a commonly used phrase, once again with the reaching.

    His players had nothing to do with the context of what he was saying. He was in a business meeting regarding the entire NFL and the revenue decrease being discussed and used a phrase that pertains to the discussion, admittedly probably not the best choice of words and players are getting offended.
    So clearly it is not I who is slow, it seems that you can't follow a simple conversation and resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks. Good job bud
     
  6. ghettocheeze

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    My problem with the quote is the intention not the content.

    McNair could've said "Can't let the Oompa-Loompas run the chocolate factory" and it would still be offensive to players because of the intended owner-employee power dynamic Bob is describing.

    Football players are not just wage employees. They are smart, tough, hard-working men who risk their health and wellness to entertain people and should be treated at the very least as associates in the same business, which the NFL operates as a non-profit at taxpayer expense.

    Now, add predominately black players being reprimanded by a wealthy white owner and the power dynamic becomes even uglier.

    Therefore racial insensitivity aside, who the hell does Bob McNair think he is?

    His stadium is majority taxpayer funded. Maybe he should be reminded who actually runs the asylum?
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    So what bothered you was an accurate portrayal of the owner-employee dynamic? Well, that's not the most odd take I've seen, but it's certainly an interesting one.
     
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    Man. I'd hate to make a single mistake around the NFL players. Those guys apparently are perfect while everyone else better toe the line.
     
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    Proof that white people can be r****ded too. Then again he is like 100 years old he probably has dementia. Time to pass the baton already.
     
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    In case you haven't heard, Yuli Gurriel made a racist eye gesture in reference to Yu Darvish tonight. Yu took a tough loss in the game tonight and was the victim of racism. Here was Yu Darvish's comment on the matter:
    This message is so beautiful, and applies to the McNair Situation and any other racist/violent/hate message. Darvish is describing the solution to our problems.
     
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  11. red5rocket

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    No problem with this at all. But if he would have said he felt disrespected, would anyone blame him?
     
  12. TheRealist137

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    Tell that to the people who think McNair said nothing wrong. It doesn't sound like they believe McNair has anything he needs to learn.
     
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  13. theoldblood

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    Too much PC in today's society. I'm sure if Bob really was a racist, he wouldn't have a black man as his children's godfather.
     
  14. theimpossibles1

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    Yu actually did call it disrespectful in another comment, which is true, but insisted we focus on progress instead.
    The message applies universally.
     
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    I’m asking about the Gurriel/Darvish situation
     
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    He should have used the looneys running the asylum analogy instead
     
  17. Malaya

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    Welcome to the real world. Players don't realize there really is a power differential between owners and players, between employers and employees?

    McNair wasn't even talking about his team which has never kneeled nor protested. He like other owners are concerned (players should be too) about falling TV ratings, backlash against flag protest. He was saying the employers should have the final say how to run the league.

    Fact is football is players' way out of poverty. They should be careful about biting the hand that feeds them. Doesn't mean they cannot make a stand but they have to make it a win-win proposition.

    Also, are the protests accomplishing anything to address police brutality? Could they not channel their energy to dialoguing with the police department re: police procedures?

    By the way this is what the Texans and Duane Brown did last Oct 2016. They met Hou mayor Turner to talk about police policies. Many ways to help that are more effective.
     
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    Ken Lay knew the gig was about to be up and began to loot the Enron treasury by buying "companies" owned by his Republican cronies in Houston, paying 10 times what they were worth. Cogen, McNair's company, was a "dot-com"-ish scam owning interests in some power plants but claiming businesses would install small electrical generation facilities to reduce their electricity costs. Enron first bought the interests in the plants then paid a second time to buy the stock in Cogen, which was instead worthless. So the real story of the Texans' birth was the taxpayers building a stadium and gifting it to McNair and McNair looting the Enron shareholders knowing that as a wealthy Republican he was above the laws in Houston and in Texas. But you (and the Chronicle) give McNair the credit, forget the taxpayers and shareholders, and build a statue to McNair.
     
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  19. tmacfor35

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    You have issue with the intention? You have no clue what the intention was. If you judge McNair off his past and the meaning of that common expression. You could make a logical conclusion he was referring how to run a business.
     
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  20. Commodore

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    yes, everyone says stupid things sometimes, he apologized, move on

    the sticks and stones adage we used to be taught has gone out of style, now everyone has to pretend to be hurt and outraged
     

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