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Choke City Returns........

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Mr.Scarface, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Nigel Thornberry

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    Well you’re r****ded, why are you still arguing this after we won the series?
     
  2. the shark

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    Mr. Scarface you're entitled to your opinion as this is a fan forum. That said last I checked the 'Stros are in the WS so how you've come to the conclusion that they "choked" is just flat out nonsense.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I think, to decipher his thinking, that any time a Houston team which is supposedly better than the other team, loses, then they have choked. So, in his mind, the Astros choked in the loss to Boston and the three losses to New York.
     
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  4. Houstunna

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    Local sports history is bad, but the future is bright.
     
  5. Mr.Scarface

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    NO...u are just an idiot and can't comprehend. When you blow a 2-0 lead......WHILE hitting below .140 as a team and your bullpen pitches scared and gives up 19 runs in 3 games............you are choking....the pressure is getting to you. Now.....the Astros had the chance to comeback and win.....which they did.

    Choking is not losing. Choking is utter failure by collapsing under pressure.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But, since they won the series, they didn't blow the lead.

    So...assume they played 7 well played games, hit well, pitched well, fielded well, managed well, but the Yankees played out of their heads and won the series 4-3. Would that have been a better result for you?
     
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    How did we blow a 2-0 lead when we won the series? Just take your L.
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    They would have lost.....to a team playing their best. It wouldn't have been a better result as the Astros lost, but it wouldn't have been a choke.

    A choke looks like the Falcons in the superbowl. The pressure got to the coaches and players and they collapsed under it.
     
  9. Mr.Scarface

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    The rockets is 94 choked in the first 2 games in Houston, hence Choke City (blew a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter). However, they recovered....hence, Clutch City was born. Just because you are choking...doesn't mean u can't recover before u lose a series. Hell, you can recover in a game. Just depends on the situation.

    Choking is not absolute. Just because u choke...doesn't mean u have to lose. It is about collapsing under the pressure of the moment.
     
  10. the shark

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    Mr Scarface you are "choking" with these posts.

    That said the 'Stros are IN the WS and you're spewing this BS?

    You seem like a guy who just likes to b**** just to b****.

    Instead of complaining why don't you just try to enjoy that thè 'Astros are playing in the WS.
     
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  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So then why can't the Astros hitting woes be attributed to superior Yankee pitching? Why does their lack of offense have to be considered choking?
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    It's gameday, this thread needs to die.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    IGNORE HIM. Let him wallow in the toxic negativity of his own making.

    The rest of us have a World ****ing Series to get ready for and nothing should be able to knock you off that high, even a moron that wants to purposefully sabotage his own enjoyment of it. His loss, not yours.
     
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  14. Mr.Scarface

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    UM....people keep bringing up..."why you say they choked?". I gave an explanation on why.....they don't like the explanation because it is SPOT on. I'm passed this. I'm on to the World Series. However, some seem to think "I had FAITH all the time" (which is BS) makes them superior fans. LOL....no, it just makes you accept losing. I'm passed "blind faith" in a team. I've been a fan of Houston teams since I could remember (about 39 years....or 5 years old). I've earned the right to be critical of their failures and not just trusting of franchise. It is time for them to put up or shut up. I will root and support them, but I will also call out their failures.

    GO Astros, Beat LA!
     
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    Just ignore the fool.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I'm not questioning your fandom. Since I am not part of the team, I don't have anything to do with them winning or losing or choking or not choking. You are being called out due to your granularity of the use of the word "choke" and you keep moving the goal posts. At one point you said the choke "every time". Clearly not true. Also, you say when they lose to a "lesser" team on the road, that's choking. Clearly not true. By your definition, players and teams continually choke. When Altuve doesn't get a clutch hit against a lesser pitcher, it must be because he choked. Keuchel gives up a home run to some light hitting, mediocre player, it must be because he choked. Oftentimes, in a particular instance or game, the other player/team is simply better, especially this time of year and more so with the quality of teams in the playoffs this year. It seems you would be happier if you looked at the total picture - Astros get to the World Series with their rotation in tact - rather than the fact they lost three in a row to a good team on the road.
     
  17. Tomstro

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    And you guys call ME negative
     
  18. Mr.Scarface

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    AGAIN...it is NOT that they lost. It is HOW they lost.
     
  19. dandorotik

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    I refer you to your original post:

    Astros do what they always do.....like all Houston teams.....choke on the road. Yankees are going to win 3 in a row.......then win Game 7. Same ole' story in Houston.

    First of all, all Houston teams have not choked. And the Astros haven't always choked, either. They didn't in 2005, according to your definition. So, that's your first failure.

    Second, in the case of the Houston Rockets, whom you referred to as the origin of Choke City, lost the first 2 games at HOME, not on the ROAD. So, that's your second failure.

    Third, the Yankees didn't win Game 7. That's your third failure.

    So, basically, your OP was steeped in utter failure, and instead of just admitting that you ****ed up royally with your statement, you keep this ridiculous choke-definition argument going.

    You have the right to be whatever kind of fan you want.

    But you can also admit when you're wrong- and your OP was so full of wrong that all your subsequent arguments really don't amount to anything.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    And again, who cares? I don't care if they lose 3 games by an average score of 29-0 and win 4 by an average of 3-2.

    Do you really care if that happens over the next 7 games?
     

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