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[Unofficial 2017 ALCS] New York Yankees vs. Houston Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by swyyyguy, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Girardi admitted the play was legal. He was just ‘hoping’.
     
  2. TracywtFacy

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    I don't know much about baseball but seems harsh to blame the catcher, ball bounced just in front of his glove and was curving away... Or are those expected to be taken?

    Also why didn't he throw off his mask?
     
  3. Daddy Long Legs

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    i hold judge the most accountable honestly. that's just me. by the time it was near the catcher, it was not an easy play for him to make.
     
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  4. Tfor3

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    Astros are amazing!!
     
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    Drove down from Dallas again and went to the game today. Couldn't be happier!
     
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  6. kaleidosky

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    Like the good play by the Astros where Reddick hustled and made a quick and hard throw, Correa made a quick transfer and relay, and Bregman did a great job of getting the tag down... Judge, Gregorius, and Sanchez all made important and noticeable mistakes. Given how far Altuve should've been out by, I'd say you can blame all of them--because if even one did his job properly, Altuve would be out (or maybe not sent if Judge did his job well).

    Because Judge was the first one in the chain and could've prevented the need for the other guys to have to make a difficult play in the first place, I blame Judge the most like Mathrocker.
     
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  7. TracywtFacy

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    What should he have done? Thrown straight to home?
     
  8. kaleidosky

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    -Set up, planted, and thrown a strike with urgency (I really believe he thought he stopped the run from scoring by preventing the ball from going to the wall, so he stopped treating the play like the game was on the line.)
    -Thrown to the cutoff man (Castro), who would be in a straight line from Judge to home plate
     
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  9. SWTsig

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    I'm not sure how anyone can place a majority of the blame on anyone but Sanchez. Even with judge throwing to second and didi short hopping the throw home the ball still beat altuve by a country mile, all Sanchez needed to do was catch it and apply the tag. That's it. Did the short hop make it a more difficult catch? Sure, but ditching the mask sure as hell would've helped. And if that's McCann back there every single one of us would expect him to catch it and get the runner out w ease.

    It should've been an easy out at home but Sanchez muffed it.
     
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  10. juicystream

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    All on Sanchez. I mean, he could have moved forward or back on that ball and had plenty of time to get to Altuve.
     
  11. Rox225

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    Sanchez choked. Astros have made all the defensive plays so far. Let’s keep that going.

    Correa said he and Altuve talked about needing to get Verlander the win in 9th. Love those two guys. I know it’ll be hard, but I hope they’re both Astros for life.
     
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  12. Nick

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    No... he should have thrown it straight to the cut-off man (who was Castro, not Didi).
     
  13. Daddy Long Legs

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    J/w, did you ever play outfield in baseball as a kid? I just dont see how anyone can say thats 100% sanchez and 0% judge.
     
  14. Daddy Long Legs

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    It was judges poor judgment that even allowed correa to be an impediment on that play IMO
     
  15. kaleidosky

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    I guess I'm thinking a catcher probably picks that ball 9/10 times. Not super easy given the speed and the low hop, but not at all impossible. So yeah, Sanchez definitely should make the play. But you can change that from 9/10 to 10/10 if Judge does his job better--even if he's not perfect with his throw to Castro.
     
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  16. SWTsig

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    But why does that matter? With all those mistakes the throw still gets home with altuve a solid 20' away. At that point who cares what path the ball took to get there, it got there accurate enough and with enough time for Sanchez to field it cleanly and get altuve out with relative ease.

    Judge absolutely could've made a better throw but he didn't have to! That should be an easy play for an MLB catcher.
     
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  17. Daddy Long Legs

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    Thats where we disagree
    I agree that the catcher still coulda made the play but it wasnt an easy play anymore at that point. It seemed awkward and off rythym at that point.

    Goofing up an awkward play is a lot more forgivable then being the one who turns a relatively easy play into an awkward play in my eyes.
     
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  18. Tha_Dude

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    It was Didi who made a bad throw, still should have been caught by Sanchez though for the tag.

    Bottom line, the Yankees just aren't as good of a defensive team as we are.
     
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  19. Houstunna

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    Nobody saw it coming after Judge cut it off.

    Altuve had barely rounded 3rd when Didi - standing behind 2nd base - received the ball.

    Jose made some serious ground even with should've being thrown out by a mile.
     
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  20. Daddy Long Legs

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    I think we all agree that judge, didi, and sanchez all coulda done better. We all just might have different opinions on who should be held accountable the most.

    Judge was 1st in that chain of command and put didi in position to make the bad throw IMO. Thats what im saying when I say judge was the one who turned it into a clumsy play. If he threw it to castro then he wouldnt have been blocked by correa and forced into a weird throw like didi was.

    All 3 coulda fixed the play if they did better, but im just glad the astros W’d!
     
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