Jerry Jones: Cowboys will bench any player who 'disrespects' flag

Locking arms while standing is not a protest, it's a sign of unity....and that's why no one has a problem with it. The taking a knee BS was intended as disrespect from day 1. The original quote showing the intent was "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Well even with Martin it was a case where a guy attacked a wanna be cop and ended up shot as a result, it still wasn't a sympathetic case.

The truly sympathetic cases are few and far between but that doesn't stop some people from pretending that legitimate cases are happening all the time.

 

The players were clearly standing in solidarity against Trump's words that weekend. You can call it "not a protest", but they were "protesting" Trump's words during the anthem while looking at the flag.

 

You're an idiot, no disrespect of course. (Did I do that right? )

What is black on black violence but people being segregated by race so their interactions occur mostly within their race. Same with white on white violence or latino on latino violence or vietnamese on vietnamese violence. This is the typical wingnut hypocracy of using race rather than wealth on crime statistics to identify a racial problem that doesn't really exist but not using race on wealth or educational statistics to identify discrimination.

Why do you people who spew these stupid talking points do nothing to investigate what you're perpetuating?

 

AA are statistically more likely to commit crimes so it would make sense for police to be more suspicious.

The assumptions they are guilty after accusations based on very little evidence is out of control though. However, that is not something exclusive to african americans. Women call rape and sexual abuse on innocent men all the time, with the men being presumptively guilty at a high rate based on little evidence.

If you were an NBA player, and Stephan Curry has the ball at the 3 point line, are you going to run up and challenge that shot? Yes, you are.

If you were an NBA player, and Omer Asik has the ball at the 3 point line, are you going to run up and challenge that shot? No, you are not.

Asik is white. Are you racist? No you are not. Curry statistically has a higher chance of making that 3.

African Americans break the law more often and this isn't a biologic issue. It isn't completely a skin issue. It's a socio-economic and culture issue. Bad behavior is promoted more in the young black culture than others ie: you are 'acting white' otherwise. Black women to a lesser degree, they tend to excel and fair better. But awful black culture is developed in youth by poor public schooling, lack of fathers, higher rates of medical problems: developed from living in more urban areas and bad nutrition- which cause more broken families and/or MORE stress on the AA youth during prime development years. These are the issues that require protest, and less mainstream b/tching about victimhood. You see AA NFL players with millions committing crimes at an astounding rate, it's from being raised in a heavy stress environment where culturally bad habits were promoted during those prime developmental years- thats where the focus should be on.

It's more of a socio-economic and culture issue than a biologic issue because foreign born blacks (who i might add tend to be darker in skin) don't have near the crime rates or health outcome problems than native borns have.

Mutombo is building hospitals in his homeland. While that isn't feasable in America- NFL players with status should get off their knee's and instead do more work promoting and building out their old communities. I applaud the ones who get that and do that.

 

Why is anyone suprised?

 

Couple of points.

Your logic of proximity doesnt excuse the violence

No race comes close to our rate of violent crime.

 

check your logic at the door. all your beliefs and ideals are pre-determined by your party. how dare you analyze an issue before decided where you stand. chose your party and accept your judgement.

 

I didn't excuse the violence, I explained the "black on black crime" phenomenon. It's nothing more than segregated communities that are disproportionately poor and disproportionately targeted by the white power establishment for hundreds of years.

I guarantee you if you take a couple million white people, enslave them, take away their language, religion, all of their traditions, and break up their families they will very closely approximate what has happened to the descendants of slavery in America. Crime isn't a race thing so why make it a race thing? Discrimination is a race thing so why pretend it isn't a race thing? You literally have everything backwards from the actual cause and effect in America.

 

Even granting that, you yourself are not the criminal type (so far as I know). The only relationship you have with these black men who have a problem with crime is that you're black like them. So, you are okay with the fact that I'd be treated with comparative kid gloves by the justice system because you have a superficial link to some unrelated high-crime people and I do not? Perhaps "okay with" is not the right term, but you think this is a problem for the black people to solve themselves by pulling themselves up by the bootstraps, and you see nothing our own wider self-governance should do to counteract this prejudice towards you. Because it is reasonable, you're saying, for them to make assumptions about you based on their experience with other random black people. Just testing my understanding.

Also, sorry if I'm making this personal. I hope you know I mean it out of genuine regard and curiosity. I'll stop if you tell me to stop.

 

Its a five times more the rate of violent crime than the rest of the country issue


Black on black is an issue of proximity but neither a reason or excuse for rate of violence.

I don't get how "blacks crime rate" is even debatable. There is something to be said about the war on drugs but im speaking about violent crime in particular.

 

Your comparison is the exact problem. Curry shoots great. Asik does not. Those are individual humans with historical performances to go on. Now take your comparison that blacks commit more crime. It isn't whether you'd take Asik over Curry, but becomes would you take a black man over a white man in a shooting competition because Curry is a better shooter than Asik?

It is reasonable to treat someone with a history differently based on their personal history. It is not reasonable to treat a person differently just because they share the skin tone with someone that has a history.

The majority of black people aren't bad. They shouldn't simply be treated as criminals because some are, just like Muslims shouldn't all be treated like terrorists, and white people shouldn't be looked at as racist. The color of our skin does not define us.

 

The important part was that they were standing up to show pride in or respect for the flag of the country, mixing in a message of unity while doing so is even better....and the opposite of the divisive and disrespectful BS the original kneeling was about.

I don't think anyone would be concerned about any anti-Trump message, they were only disgusted by the anti-US message the r****ded kneelers were sending.

 

So, showing unity against the President and supporting their fellow players who kneel during the anthem while the anthem is playing, simply because they are standing (most not even placing their hands over their hearts) is OK?

 

If you look at how Goodell has handled nearly every other major issue in the past, will there be any shock at how Goodell eventually folds from the billionaire owners and the President? History will not be kind to Roger Goodell I can tell you that much. He'd be smart by just telling the owners to shut up and hold on a couple of weeks and this will eventually go away when the President inevitably moves on to something else.

 

Sorry for all the posts, really

Thw bigger issue in all these topics is black people are well past time for taking responsibility for problems we are responsible for and only we can solve.

We have won civil rights. That battle is over. We want everyone to move forward so so we have to move forward

 

You're just repeating the same thing I just said is irrelevant. Why do you think repeating yourself over and over and over again changes anything?

 

Not even taking a black man over a white man in shooting. Let's take personal historys and individual performances out of the equation. Centers and PF's who can shoot that 3 still tend to get wide open looks more often then other positions. Individual historical performance says they can hit that shot, yet they still get more wide open looks. Why is that? Defensive lapse, not used to guarding that position so far out and players judging that position as a whole opposed to the individual.

Take a poll, don't mention any names. Ask who you'd feel more confident about taking a 3 point shot. A SG or a PF. Shooting guard will win, even with the trending barrage of stretch 4's in the league.

Ask who you'd feel more confident about playmaking and passing skills. PG or PF. PG will win, even though a 7'3" guy is the reigning nba skills champion.

 

http://www.snopes.com/nfl-sideline-anthem/
They should go back to this it would solve the problem.

 

Goodell finally doing what the NBA did years ago and what everyone told him to do from the start. Unfortunately it's too late. Damage is done.