[Violence] Japan had 1 fatal shooting in all of 2015

and many of them could have turned into psychotic mass murdering killers if they didn't kill themselves.

 

Do you think working hard to get more immigrants in our nation is a way to get it under control since immigrants to the United States have lower crime and violence than American born citizens?

 

A. How do we not have control?
B. Why do you need to have control before making major gun-rights legislation?

 

Lol at all yall helping Crackpot Red write his term paper to get his GED.

Generous.

 

The OP ridiculously used Japan to promote his agenda without the data backing it up.

Fact is that Japan is ranked 158th in Gun grime where the USA is #1
Fact is that when it comes the homicide rate, Japan is ranked 44th to the USA 8th.

So people do murder one another in Japan - yes at a lower rate than the usa, but they are much much much less likely to a use a gun to do it than other countries. And that isn't because of culture but because of access.

 

So, what's the take-away I should have from this thread? Because so far it has been that there is no useful comparison to be made, pro or con, with what is probably the most inimitable country on the planet, Japan.

 

Adequately compensate. It can help, but the harm done is lasting and only each individual can overcome it themselves. I don't think there is any amount of $ that can get you there.

There are apologies and acknowledgements (see Kono statement), though many view it as late, lacking in honesty and full acknowledgement. Add to that, Abe government is going the wrong way for political reasons and some suspect him wanting to reinterpret history so they can be an offensive military force again.

 

Japan's homicide rate is 0.35 (vs 4.70 for the US) per 100k
Japan's homicide rate using gun is 0.00 (vs 3.60 for the US).
Japan's total gun death rate is 0.06 (0.04 suicides) (vs 10.54 with 6.3 suicides for the US).
NOTE: Japan's suicide rate is 15.4 (vs 12.6 for the US)

I think the two statement you can said are: US has a gun homicide and suicide problem. Japan has very little homicide problem, but a suicide problem.

I think access to gun is probably not going to change Japan homicide rates, but likely will increase the suicide rate. Removing gun will have a big impact on the US homicide and suicide rate.

 

Are you suggesting that we get control of our country by getting more immigrants living in the U.S.?

We know that immigrants commit crimes and violence at a lower rate than American born citizens, so is that the way that you want to get control of our nation?

 

I don't see why one thing would have anything at all to do with the other. And it's baldly xenophobic. Though I guess you're saying other people are xenophobic and that's why you won't get gun control. But by this logic, even without any immigrants, we'll still have a subclass of blacks and other minorities. If gun rights are driven by the fear of the Other, I don't see how you're going to get them to relent when whites are still on track to be a minority by 2050. Are you saying with this thread that you wish the US was homogeneous like Japan and you think all of these problems would go away if only we were a nation of whites?

 

LOL what a crazy plan it just might work.

 

what do you think?

 

No - Japan does have homicides, they don't just use guns. Introduce guns and homicides would increase in Japan as it would be easier to kill. The data bears that out.

 

Yes they do, at a very low rate. 0.35 per 100k.

I understand that gun make it easier. But would that increase the homicide for a society that doesn't kill much at all to begin with? If they already essentially aren't killing, why would gun suddenly make them kill more? What data bears that out for Japan?

 

The fact that in Japan guns homicides index far far lower than other means for homicides - that's an indication that if guns were available, there would be more homicides. Part of the reason Japan has such a low murder rate is the unavailability of guns. People are contributing that to culture when in reality it is more attributable to socio-economics and availability of guns which make killing much easier.

Japan's homicide rate has fallen 90% since the 1950's for instance. That's not culture, that's economics.

Further more, where in the U.S. well over 50% of murders use a gun, in Japan, it's closer to 2%. It's clearly obvious that gun availability makes it a lot easier to murder someone. If you dump a ton of guns into society, there will be more murders. If you don't get that...I think you are just choosing to live in denial.

 

It depends on whether "the Jews" and "whites" of non-Aryan stock are included in this dreamy hypothetical.

But I'll let our special friend Dei spout the outright Nazzi propaganda.

 

Typical cohete rojo specious reasoning thread ala "It's snowing today, where's the climate change?"