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Las Vegas Shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. No Worries

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    Whatever helps you through the night.
     
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    Not helping me with anything, do the research. Yes we are above the global average for gun related murders but are under the average by any other form of murder.

    In fact not even in the top 100 of countries for murder in 2016.

    I was just answering the notion that there are more "bad" people in America than other places and that's just not backed up by numbers.
     
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    Definitely one of the stranger posts in this thread.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    this is god awful, agenda driven analytics. The purpose of gun laws is not to reduce gun deaths, it is to reduce deaths period. More specifically the purpose is to reduce homicides and suicides. If someone is using specifically gun deaths for this type of analysis it means they are dishonest and agenda driven.

    BTW in the US there is no correlation between gun laws and homicides among states.

    Im not even saying my position on gun laws, just that this is awful and should be ignored. When people say ' numbers can say anything these days' this is what they mean. you can dishonestly manipulate the data to say whatever you want.
     
  6. Astrodome

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  7. ipaman

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    look in the mirror
     
  8. ipaman

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    CBS is not ABC/ESPN when it comes to personal social media use by staff. Good for them.

    Also, heard the NY Bar is investigating.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    I approve of her getting fired not sure I approve of her facing legal consequences for having an opinion (no matter how awful).
     
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    How many more massacres will we need before there are significant changes to gun laws?

    I own guns myself and I see no reason why I'm able to go to Gander Mountain and buy 1000 rounds of 5.56/.223 with multiple 30 round magazines without question. It's literally like going to Kroger and buying groceries.
     
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    You can buy a gun in Indiana and take it into Chicago pretty easily. You can't buy a gun in Switzerland and easily take it into Germany. The correlation he is trying to do isn't all that meaningful.
     
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  12. ipaman

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    i think the issue is state bar code of responsibility & ethics. so when you see what she actually said (and believes) i think it's fair to question her ethics. i mean she said that she wasn't sympathetic because country music folks are repugs who don't care about sandy hook. holy **** how can an educated lawyer think like that?!?!
     
  13. Yung-T

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    Know you're not a gun nut and have been for tighter regulations in this thread, so I'm not going to attack you, but:

    1) This doesn't really address how numbers change for mass murder sprees, like this one (let's face it, no one is going to kill 50 people with a knife).

    2) The state vs. state instead of country vs country is also a bad measurement, as
    a) people can drive to the next state and buy a gun and
    b) some states having loose gun laws of course means you'll have a much bigger spread of guns within the entire country, as it's way easier to purchase guns legally or illegally.

    3) author even admits he didn't account for demographics and economics at all, which is an absolutely terrible omission when it comes to violence and crimes.
     
  14. tallanvor

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    and that would be illegal.
     
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    Those casualty numbers are unbelievable.

    Gun laws are irrelevant, if they can't be confidently enforced.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    FIFY. if they can't be enforced then you take guns away from those who would use responsibly. Tell a father who lives in the inner city he cant legally sleep with a gun under is pillow because of a law that isn't helping anything.
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    You are implying my post was directed at a full gun ban.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Did you by chance happen to look into where America falls on those rankings in terms of the industrialized world?
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    Bolt action rifles.

    Shotguns.

    Revolvers.

    There ya go.

    That's the DonnyMost plan for acceptable civilian firearms.

    We can work in some exceptions for former and active duty law enforcement and military. But otherwise, you don't need anything other than that to protect yourself, your home, or hunt things.
     
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    I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe it's been addressed. Did the madman actually turn one of his semi-automatic weapons into an automatic one? That's what "initial reports" say on CNN. I know that a semi-automatic can be fired very fast, so there could be some confusion, but I'm reading that he allegedly altered at least one of his 10 firearms.
     

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