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Las Vegas Shooting

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  1. cmoak1982

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    It would be nice to get some clarification and hopefully in time there is, but motive or no motive there is just not much you can do to stop bad people from doing bad **** unfortunately
     
  2. cmoak1982

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    For normal, rational people it's hard to fathom why these things happen. We naturally want to blame something for it but sometimes people are just bad
     
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  3. ipaman

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    this so much. the universe is entropic and in our human constructs that means **** happens. the folks looking for blame or politicizing this tragedy can suck a giant bag of dicks.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Why doesn't this logic apply when the perpetrator is a Muslim????
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    This idea that Paddock could've or even should've used a plane if he wanted to kill more people dangerously speculative. First you have to consider that Paddock is actually suicidal his intention might not have been to kill himself. It's possible he could've thought shooting from a distance he could've gotten away with it. Next to be able to accurately guide the plane to that target on the ground for maximum casualtis with several large buildings nearby wouldn't be easy. I have no idea how skilled of a pilot Paddock was. As other posters have noted this was adjacent to McCarron airport which is controlled air space, along with the strip itself. Further as McCarron is also an USAF base there probably are countermeasures. Most likely though this action of someone who wasn't that rational to begin and chose a means that could be relatively quickly and easily used.
     
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    jesus you are ****ing stupid
     
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  7. ipaman

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    who said it didn't? i'll re-read my post but i don't remember writing those words. perhaps your reading skills are poor.

    iamverysmart
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    This is one of the things that gives me hope for our society. For every madman there are many more who are ready to help. If we look at what happened in Harvey and other disasters you always see people willing to help even at the risk of their own safety.
     
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    Sorry, don't remember you making this post when a Muslim shoots up people.
     
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  10. No Worries

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    To live up to our exceptionalism, Americans have a higher percent of bad people than most other countries.
     
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  11. cmoak1982

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    It should and does apply to a certain extent, the only difference is there is a motive with Muslim extremist guided by there religious belief to do harm to "infidels", that's generalizing to an extent, there can easily be "bad" muslims without any outside influence to do harm. Typically it's guided by their religion though.
     
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    They needed to make sure they see everyone that went in and out for his whole stay.
    They say the guns were out and about so someone may have seen and not said or been an accomplice...etc.

    Plus if he was dead during the breach......

    Rocket River
    ...... the end of Phone Booth just popped into my mind
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't want to engage too much in speculation as we know very little at this point. What I've heard is that yes when the police found Paddock the guns were about. That doesn't mean that they always were. Firearms can be broken down and hidden. I've stayed in Reno with ski bags and Vegas with camping packs and many come with golf bags. Those could easily hide rifles.

    At this point it looks like a lone gunman that took his own life when he was about to get caught. An accomplice(s) might be possible but I haven't heard any info pointing that way.
     
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  14. ipaman

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    you're the type of person that should eat multiple bags of dicks. you psychos just can't help yourselves. nothing (besides fake isis credit) about this is related to islam or muslims but you're sick, infected with a mental disorder.
     
  15. cmoak1982

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    Do you have numbers verifying that claim? Or maybe it's that news of these events are more pertinent when in your own back yard.

    Seems to me there are a lot of mass killing type attacks across the globe the last several years. Not to mention all of the acts that aren't documented in smaller countries that are just attributed to their way of life.

    Look at central and South America and northeast and Eastern Africa, cartels and warlords that slaughter innocents on a frequent basis.
     
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    This is surprising, but you might be the most immature person on this entire message board. You have a lot of rage, you can't carry on a conversation with anyone you don't agree with...sad really.

    I hope whatever it is that bothers you gets better man.
     
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    I'm sure this guy had some kind of motive as well. We clearly don't know what it was at this point.
     
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    How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries
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    A row of weapons is seen at the Richmond Gun Show at the Richmond International Raceway in this file photo from March 30, 2008.

    Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.

    The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.

    "Overall, our results show that the U.S., which has the most firearms per capita in the world, suffers disproportionately from firearms compared with other high-income countries," said study author Erin Grinshteyn, an assistant professor at the School of Community Health Science at the University of Nevada-Reno. "These results are consistent with the hypothesis that our firearms are killing us rather than protecting us," she said in a journal news release.

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    Death by gun: Top 20 states with highest rates

    The review of 2010 World Health Organization data also revealed that despite having a similar rate of nonlethal crimes as those countries, the United States has a much higher rate of deadly violence, mostly due to the higher rate of gun-related murders.

    The researchers also found that compared to people in the other high-income nations, Americans are seven times more likely to die from violence and six times more likely to be accidentally killed with a gun.

    "More than two-thirds of the homicides in the U.S. are firearm homicides and studies have suggested that the non-gun homicide rate in the U.S. may be high because the gun homicide rate is high," Grinshteyn said.

    "For example, offenders take into account the threat posed by their adversaries. Individuals are more likely to have lethal intent if they anticipate that their adversaries will be armed," she explained.

    Even though it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the United States accounted for 82 percent of all gun deaths. The United States also accounted for 90 percent of all women killed by guns, the study found. Ninety-one percent of children under 14 who died by gun violence were in the United States. And 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed by guns were in the United States, the study found.

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    Murder is the second leading cause of death among Americans aged 15 to 24, the study found. The research also showed that murder was the third leading cause of death among those aged 25-34. Compared to those in the same age groups in other wealthy countries, Americans aged 15-24 are 49 times more likely to be the victim of a gun-related murder. For those aged 25-34, that number is 32 times more likely, the research revealed.

    The researchers also point out that numerous studies suggest that reduced access to guns would lower the suicide rate in the United States.

    "Differences in overall suicide rates across cities, states and regions in the United States are best explained not by differences in mental health, suicide ideation, or even suicide attempts, but by availability of firearms," said study co-author David Hemenway, professor of health policy at Harvard University's School of Public Health, and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center and the Harvard Youth Violence Prevention Center, all in Boston.

    "Many suicides are impulsive, and the urge to die fades away. Firearms are a swift and lethal method of suicide with a high case-fatality rate," he noted in the news release.

    © 2016 HealthDay. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
     
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  19. cmoak1982

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    Possibly, hopefully so. If not, could just boil down to being a bad person doing bad things
     
  20. cmoak1982

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    @No Worries

    And when you look up murders by country we're not even in the top 40.
     

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