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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Cmon man, I don't dismiss things of the past, there was a lot of past discrimination and exclusion (and way worse) of blacks in many things...but I truly believe much has changed since those times. You're going to have some instances still as well...but not like it use to be. I think things have changed and will continue to change for the better for black folks. But there are things in black culture that are also preventing a quicker transition to equality and acceptance. Lying about police violence is something that won't go over well if it is established as a norm in black culture. Hell, Bennett had no problem lying his ass off and of course everyone believed him...until the video showed the truth. Owning up to the lie and the millions of dollars of damage done due to the riots of them would be a start...but somehow I don't see that happening.
     
  2. Amiga

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  3. Roc Paint

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    As a former CIA director you would think he would realize the situation at hand
     
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    He does and he understands that those who are pissed have a condition called 'faux outrage'.
     
  5. Amiga

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    that's why i posted it... I think his take is relatively more meaningful than the avg joe for someone of his former position
     
  6. Roc Paint

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    To agreeable posts/response, and no likes? Lol

    ps i've been in a trolling moody as of late
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    It's because your premise is stupid.

    Who doesn't love their home?

    Don't confuse people thinking it's infallible to 'hating' America.
     
  8. Amiga

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    lol; like w****! :p
     
  9. Roc Paint

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  10. Roc Paint

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    Eventually, I think most posters will think the way I do.
     
  11. dandorotik

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    And to think, I had several people on Facebook telling me I should boycott the NFL today. Yeah, like I'm going to boycott my Texans over Trump (b/c that's what all this latest kerfluffle was about). What a pathetic joke.
     
  12. TheresTheDagger

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    There's complaining and then theirs taking a knee to complain. I don't take a knee at the playing of the national anthem to protest Muslim extremism.....because its a stupid way to protest.

    I'm open minded enough to listen to any EVEN HANDED studies or facts/figures you can provide.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    A lot of the people who are pissed at the protest know very clearly that the players are protesting police brutality, not the flag. These people are just pro-police brutality.

    And here's how Donald Trump spends his time:

     
  14. No Worries

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    I read it on the Internet so it must be true ...

     
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    Agree. Which is the fundamental problem with how they are going about this. They are focusing on the wrong thing.
     
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  16. BigDog63

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    If only this view were not in such a small minority... :-( Political 'truth' is most often based on feeling, which is why 'facts' tend to get so disregarded in any discussion. What 'facts' are accepted are those that fit the preconceived notion based on feeling. This has always been the case among the populace. It extending into our 'news' media is relatively recent, I think.
     
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    I laughed.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    I'm supposed to think a dozen per year police homicides of unarmed blacks is okay because it is a small number? Besides that doesn't count victims of other minorities, nor shootings with guns planted after the fact (don't say I'm a conspiracist because we just had a case exactly like that). And the shootings are just the pinnacle of injustice, and doesn't speak to illegal searches, baseless suspicions, statistically easier convictions and longer prison terms.

    Why do people think this matters?

    That you can't think of something that doesn't sound lame is exactly the point. The shootings might just be the tip of the iceberg of the problem, but it is also an easy handle for galvanizing people. Injustices wrought by court fees and bail policies, for example, are more widespread but not very sexy and don't fit on a picket sign. Somehow, though, I learned about them anyway even if all the chants are 'hands up! don't shoot!' So the messaging isn't totally absent.
     
  19. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Or true, and you sound okay with that...because, after all, you learned something. But what you’re getting at is also true...it is easier to get people to protest and riot when you claim the police are killing people under false circumstances. That’s what set off all this violence...it didn’t start bc of annoying and excessive court costs or making them stay longer during a traffic stop...it started from lies of violence and Brutality. Are you really okay with that bc it was a learning experience for you? Because that’s how it sounds :/...to each his own.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I don't think that's true; I think it started with the accumulation of myriad little racial injustices. Because the stage has already been set for institutional racism, no benefit of the doubt will be granted when there is a shooting. Nor do I think it should be. Even in a case like Michael Brown where there are good reasons to think the shooting was justifiable, I don't think it was justice. The difference would be only in the culpability of the policeman. For the rest of it, our society is still culpable. It is far more complicated than what the truth is about the position of the man's hands. People who are sympathetic to the argument will be sensitive to the complexity; people who are not sympathetic will think no further and just say, "his hands weren't up; he was the agent of his own destruction. There is nothing to see here and everybody is on goofballs if they think they are being oppressed."
     

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