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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. Commodore

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    Thats so stupid and tells me that you don't know statistics.

    If you take a random sample then you'd be right. In a non random sample as is the case when one chooses people with similar occupations, you won't necessarily get what you are describing.

    Just to be clear, your stupid explanation for the study relies on skin color being a bigger determinant on wealth than occupation. That's your endgame, as ridiculous as it is. Your mental gymnastics are astounding. I'm done here.
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    Bobby's highest level of math I believe is algebra 2. He's an enlisted man with no higher education. Be easy on him.
     
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  4. juicystream

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    So? They've gotten more understanding, which isn't a bad thing. I guess we could always go back to the good old days of land owning white males being the only voters since change is so bad.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't think you understand the factors that influence wealth given that you don't seem to understand how people with similar occupations can have vastly different levels of wealth.

    If person A comes from a well off family and owns a home and 2 cars while working at Taco Bell and moonlighting as an armed robber and person B comes from a poor family with nothing and they live in an apartment and take a bus to their job at Taco Bell before moonlighting as an armed robber, person A is going to not only personally have more wealth than person B, but they'll have access to even more than that. Those are the kinds of factors that matter when it comes to fighting charges in court.

    Wealth goes beyond how much money you make at your job and access to wealth goes beyond what you personally have.

    The numbers are clear, on average white families have many many times more wealth than black families and thus access to many many times more wealth than black families. It stands to reason that any significant sample you take from both groups would also represent this.
     
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    Why do things like this get posted? First of all, Abdul-Rauf's protest did not sweep through the league. NO ONE else protested. Second, his stance was difficult to get behind because he protested as a Muslim not as an African-American. Third, the NBA did not change its rules because of Abdul-Rauf. The NBA was able to fine and suspend him because there was already a rule stating that they had to stand during the National Anthem. They still felt it was important to respect his stance and he was allowed to pray silently as a compromise. They didn't have to do that. Fourth, his career, like Kaepernick's, ended because of his protest. And Abdul-Rauf was a legit PG. His game left no room for debate as to whether or not he was good enough to play.
     
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    Dude the magnitude is not by a factor of 10.

    Let's say the average black engineer makes 90k a year. Are you saying the average white engineer has loves the lifestyle or has the net worth of someone making almost 1 million a year?
     
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    Russian internet trolls are using the controversy over NFL players kneeling
    during the national anthem to stir up divisions in the United States.


    Russian social media "trolls," were hashtagging "take a knee" and "boycott NFL" to amplify the issue.

    "They were taking both sides of the argument this past weekend, and pushing them out from their troll farms as much as they could to try to just raise the noise level in America and to make a big issue seem like an even bigger issue," Lankford said at a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee.

    As a member of the Senate intelligence committee, Lankford is privy to intelligence that Russian troll farms have used social media to create doubt and chaos in U.S. institutions and government, according to a congressional aide. The aide, who was not authorized to speak publicly, spoke only on condition of anonymity.
     
  9. CometsWin

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    Heehee. You can always count on the wingnut net.
     
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    I didn't know the NBA was actually NDPBL. (National Dem Party Basketball League).

    Wing nuts don't even give effort anymore and are so brazen in their propaganda efforts. I said it earlier of course every scandal Russian trolls inject into our discussion will always point back to the word Democrat. Because Russia is trying to prove to their people that Democracy is overrrated and leads to civil discourse. That's how you can tell if an item is Russian born or not. The NBA has nothing to do with the Democratic Party but it doesn't matter.

    (FYI... actually Colin Kap... the one who started this... has spoken out against Hillary and the Dems himself. He was hardly coordinating with the Democratic Party)

    If Big Foot caused civil discourse it would be linked back to the Democratic Party. Wing nuts like Commodore are actively spreading propaganda to destroy Democracy.... just think about that for a minute. What did you guys go with your evening?... oh just destroying Democracy on thread at a time.
     
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    You attacking freedom is what's unpatriotic.

    Flag is not our country. People don't die for a flag, they die to serve a country, not a piece of cloth. A national anthem is just a song. Not everyone worships a flag and a song as their god and things anyone who doesn't is a heathen and disgrace. The real disgrace is those who don't understand that this song and piece of cloth is meant to defend the right for people to not to worship a song and a piece of cloth.
     
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    I think those who try to associate Antifa with democrats are really stupid people, or just really desperate to try to demonize their political enemies. Probably both.

    Really, you have to be a complete moron to think that Antifa supports democrats. They are anarchists and are no fans of dems.
     
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    Deserves its own thread
     
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  14. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    Right off the bat, I disagree with you on this to an infinite extent.

    My son is one of the very few white skinned toddlers at his daycare. He is loved on the same as any other and he is kind and playful with his peers who look nothing like him. Human nature is magnified in children, they act entirely on instinct. No one has ever showed him to be afraid of people who look different so he isn't. Profiling is a taught and learned action.

    You can try to change the conversation to anything you like, it isn't going to throw me off topic. Statistics, just like they work in sports, can be used to explain anything, frame any point you want to make.

    They aren't protesting black on black violence or murder statistics, they are protesting law enforcement's penchant to overreact to black skin. If the countless videos available to anyone with the internet aren't enough proof for you, nothing ever will be and there's no need for you to be here. If that's the case, this isn't a conversation...it isn't even a debate.

    And if making it home safely is your biggest concern, maybe don't be a cop. Or let's be real, don't be black. Funny how often that **** works both ways.


    You know, I will give you this... I don't believe in utopia and I don't believe in governing like utopia is any number of laws from happening. I don't think there is a world where racism doesn't exist because that's not the world in which we live. If the kneeling will continue until racism is eradicated, there will assuredly be some tired, bruised knees. There may be less tangible reason for this movement than civil rights. Yet the intangible, the incorporeal face of racism still pervades. It's an ideaological swing for sure but it doesn't take much to find the core, not from my perspective anyway.

    Unjustified police shooting, when every made up justification arises for every police shooting. As they tend to run the line about coming home safely, yeah, I do believe that comes with a certain willingness to die. You know who should be the FIRST people to separate themselves from egregiously wrongful actions in law enforcement? LAW ENFORCEMENT. But no, they back the badge. Roll up that little snowball and send it on downhill.

    And by the way, you are quick to point out that black people are not the only ones falling under the hammer...ever stop to think them protesting leading to better treatment for them is DEFINITELY going to include better treatment for you and the people who look like you as well?
     
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    I find it hilarious that liberals are all of the sudden for free speech and the first amendment but they were completely silent when conservatives were getting their free speech taken away from them. Some even sided with the idiot protesters who used violence to shut down someone's first amendment
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I think you are conflating profiling with racism. No one suggests that you not love people just the same as any other people, but you use common sense.

    For example, some of the nicest and sweetest dogs I've ever met were pit bulls.....but at the same time, a pit bull has the potential to do serious damage to you if it isn't friendly. That means that when you are around a pit bull that you don't know, you should exercise more caution than you would if you were around a pug.

    Just common sense right? It doesn't mean you hate pit bulls, hell it doesn't even mean that the pit bull won't try to lick you to death and the pug won't be the one to attempt to attack you....profiles are certainly not always accurate. The only thing it means is that you aren't a naive idiot and you are aware of your surroundings and potential dangers.

    LOL exactly! They aren't protesting the real problems, they are protesting a boogie man. That's my point.

    Actual proof would be enough proof for me. You talk about videos on the internet, but I'm pretty sure you'd point me to a video either where there was no wrongdoing by police, or where the officer was arrested for his actions....you know, because it's almost always one of the 2.

    By all means, show me an example of an unjustified police shooting where the officers involved aren't arrested because right now, I can't think of one.

    I think this is perhaps where we differ, you aren't going to see me shed a tear for those who justifiably get shot by police no matter what they look like. Hell they could be related to me and I'd feel the same way. I feel no need to defend someone simply because they "look like me".
     
  17. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    Except exercising caution and exercising trigger fingers aren't the same thing. Treating black skin as you would a pit bull is the probs bobs.


    You don't believe it because you don't see it. That's THEIR point.


    I'm not going to look **** up for you. Seems like your internet is working fine, go watch it yourself and try to talk yourself into believing a badge = infallibility.

    Don't bother quoting me again just to disagree with everything. I'm not gonna keep talking to a brick wall.
     
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    I miss the good ole days when you could just spray protesters with water hoses.
     
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    Or turn the dogs loose on them. Or beat them with clubs. Shoot, whipping and hanging kept those boys in line in the GOOD OLD DAYS.
     
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