NCAA basketball coaches among 10 charged with fraud and corruption

I don't see how they can avoid giving Louisville the death penalty at this point.

 

The coaches are already facing 80yrs behind bars. That's basically the death penalty. We don't need to actually execute them. They can probably serve the prison system well as basketball coaches for the wardens' Guard vs Inmate tournaments, like in the Longest Yard.

 

I'm so glad they caught these criminals. Can you believe what Emanual Richardson, asst coach at Arizona, was caught doing.

Richardson allegedly accepted $20,000 in bribes and used money to influence at least one unnamed basketball player to commit to play for Arizona, according to the document.​

Richardson was released on $50,000 bond Tuesday after appearing in federal court and faces up to 60 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $1.5 million, Bruce Pascoe of the Arizona Daily Star reported.
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Can you freaking believe that. He took money to convince a student to go to Arizona!!! The charges say one. But it might have been more. 60yrs should teach him a lesson for sure.

Also have to say it was very clever of Acting US Attorney Joon Kim to force a previously convicted SEC Securities Fraud convict to work the sting operation for reduction of his sentence. Who knows, without the sting, these coaches might never have taking bribes to convince students to go to their school, but you know they would have at some point.

 

I will do you no favors.

 

Counterpoint: No.

 

I'll tell you what it says. In short, we only see Public officials and state/federal employees being charged with Bribery and Corruption. Not coaches and financial advisors of student athletes. imo, it is criminal that they are being arrested for being criminals. All they did was break NCAA rules.

 

Great point.

 

Here's another appalling criminal. Can you believe he facilitated $9,000 to the families of two players? And he also took $13k to introduce an agent to the players and put in a good word. That is outrageous, and needs to be stopped. I'm not sure 80yrs in jail is enough.

Assistant Coach Tony Bland of USC was arrested in Tampa, Fla. He appeared in court there wearing handcuffs and ankle chains. He said little during a brief hearing other than to answer the judge’s questions and did not enter a plea before being released after posting $100,000 bail....[Facing 80yrs in jail.]

Bland, 37, allegedly received bribes to steer players to agents and facilitated payments of $9,000 to the families of two unidentified Trojan players.
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Subtle sarcasm is always the better route to go, dude.

 

I assume you're using sarcasm to avoid saying the simple words that you believe the NCAA is pulling the strings of the FBI, since you realize how ludicrous and stupid you sound?

 

A) I'm shocked, SHOCKED that Pitino and LVille are involved
B) I'm pretty much equally shocked that Calipari isn't
C) Tony Bland has been a scumbag for a long time.
D) No Baylor?

 

You're losing sight about your primary concern here, that these are some kind of special and new crimes they have broken warranting getting arrested. I think it is safe to say from Joon Kim's statements that they were arrested for rather common recruiting activities

NCAA pulling the strings of the FBI is too fanciful. But a US Attorney (Kim) can do that and get them to investigate and bring him back evidence per his orders. Of course, you can't get either to do something they don't want to do. But I do definitely think the NCAA is pushing hard to convince a US Attorney that they can win cases against coaches using a bs Briberry charge that is only used against public officials. So my answer is Yes wrt the NCAA having a part in this. Probably not that hard to convince an Acting US Attorney to seek a high-profile landmark case, by stretching the normal definition of a public official. What does he have to lose?

You can attack that position of mine that NCAA is involved, but it doesn't really alter the story here ... Is this Bribery that is against the Law or just against NCAA Rules?

So, can you answer my question: Do you think agents giving money to families or coaches should have been against the law all this time, and coaches and agents should have been going to jail for Bribery and Corruption a long time ago?

And if you want to play it safe and say, "We don't know all the facts yet.", can you try to take a position on the descriptions given to date.


What would be crossing the boundary of NCAA Rules violations to breaking the Law and going to Jail.

 

He's talking about the program itself, not the accused coaches. And as ridiculous as the maximum punishment sounds, it'd be even more ridiculous if the programs go untouched while letting these guys fall on the sword.

 

It was a joke. But was anyone from Louisville arrested in the sting?

btw: A coach going to jail is not falling on the sword. That is mobster talk for bribing a public official.

This is all crazy talk.

 

Doesn't look like it but rumor going around that Pitino and AD could be stepping down today.

 

We can get into it if you'd like, it just seems that we have views on the opposite end of the spectrum. I believe that the NCAA has been printing money for decades while only giving lip service to the amateurism and education of these pro-level athletes. NBA-caliber players know they will only be in school for one year, often less than twelve months (Kyrie Irving played 11 games at Duke!). The NCAA knows this, milks their talent for as much as they can through March Madness and, after the tournament, the two business parties go their separate ways.

I don't know how issues regarding Title IX should be solved. I do think that if an athlete that plays a more minor sport, in a situation where they are unlikely to go pro, sticks around for four years they should receive a back-dated full scholarship once they graduate. Maybe this is a balance between paying clear cut one-and-done, pro-level athletes for their contributions to the bottom-line of a multi-billion dollar entity and those who contribute to the success of their school in smaller sports (water polo, women's soccer, etc.).

I don't pretend to know the answer, but I do feel that the forced amateurism of the NCAA is a farce.

 

Pitino & AD Fired

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-rick-pitino-athletic-director-tom-jurich-out

 

Pay the athletes already. Let's end this sham.

 

If you pay the players its a crime. Coaches, Admins, etc. can get millions of dollars.

It seems like there is a crime being committed against the students.