<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">President should not be telling the Washington Redskins to change their name-our country has far bigger problems! FOCUS on them,not nonsense</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="">October 8, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Boom.
4 Star General Michael Hayden sides with Kaepernick 'As a 39-year military veteran, I think I know something about the flag, the anthem, patriotism, and I think I know why we fight. It's not to allow the president to divide us by wrapping himself in the national banner. I never imagined myself saying this before Friday, but if now forced to choose in this dispute, put me down with Kaepernick.'
It's not circular reasoning, it's just spelling out what should be self explanatory. When I have to respond to really stupid comments like "All protests are seen as invalid", it just means I have to spell out for you a very simple concept that you failed to grasp. When you say "All protests are seen as invalid" it invites the response that "valid protests are seen as valid". If you were a more intelligent person, I wouldn't have to spell these things out to you.
Drumph and sports have a history, one that is filled w bankruptcy and rejection / bruised ego Drumph fought against the NFL before, and got crushed Drumph’s football adventure began in 1984, when he bought the New Jersey Generals, part of the then-new United States Football League. The USFL, as chronicled in an excellent installment of ESPN’s 30 for 30 series, was envisioned, by its founder Dixon, as a complement to the NFLthat would play in the spring, leaving fall to the NFL. For its first three years, the strategy seemed successful. But it wasn’t enough for Drumph. He pushed hard to shift the USFL to a fall schedule, where the USFL—with less talent and less public awareness—would go head-to-head with the bigger league. The decision to switch to fall play immediately crippled several USFL teams, who wouldn’t be able to compete directly with local NFL teams. The league even turned down a lifeline in the form of lucrative TV offers to broadcast spring games. But Drumph’s plan was typically audacious and risky. Rather than organically grow a new league, he hoped to force an immediate merger with the NFL, which would provide huge returns for surviving USFL team owners. That goal hinged in part on an antitrust lawsuit alleging the NFL was an unlawful monopoly. But things didn’t go Drumph’s way. While the USFL technically won the antitrust case, the jury concluded mismanagement was mostly at fault for its problems. There was no merger and no buyouts. By 1986, the USFL went belly up.. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/25/donald-trump-fought-nfl-once-he-got-crushed Drumph has held a grudge against the NFL since 2014, when he failed in an attempt to buy the Buffalo Bills franchise. “I’m going to give it [buying the Bills] a heavy shot,” Trump told the Buffalo News in April 2014. “I would love to do it, and if I can do it I’m keeping it in Buffalo.” It didn’t happen, of course. While Trump did join the bidding process, part of an eclectic cast including Jon Bon Jovi, the team was eventually sold to Terry Pegula. “I bid a billion dollars, all cash on the table,” Trump told Sports Illustrated in September 2015. “He [Pegula] bought it for a billion-two, I believe, although they say it was a billion-four. I think he got it for a billion‑two.” Trump’s bruised ego was evident from his tweets following the Bills’ sale. In October 2014 he wrote: Even though I refused to pay a ridiculous price for the Bills, I would have produced a winner. Now that won’t happen.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 13, 2014 While the Bills have mostly been terrible since Pegula took control, they have shown signs of life this season. Under head coach Sean McDermott, the Bills are first in the AFC East ahead of the New England Patriots and took out an impressive victory over the Denver Broncos at Ralph Wilson Stadium on Sunday.
Just to be clear.... Trump freely admits he's engaging in a culture war. My question for the Trump fans again... why is this guy allowed to conduct you like a mindless drone? If you are one of those aggrieved White working class folks Trump is toying with, how do you line up to fight battles for someone that clearly looks at you like a mindless fool who will do his bidding for him? How do you respect someone who openly has so little respect for you?
I swear, I'm actually reading people saying Villanueva from the Steelers is a coward for apologizing. An army ranger NFL OL coward. Sure. This flag reasoning, patriotic strawman is just a response that allows people who don't want to have the real conversation an out. You get to change the discussion to something you feel comfortable talking about where you come off looking good and "right" about it. It isn't the flag vs. kneelers. That hasn't ever been the point. You flag waver folks haven't won a victory because a few teams looked arms or kneeled without the anthem, and the conversation isn't over because Jerry Jones "did it right".
And what is the "real conversation" in your opinion? It's well known that Kap started this whole mess as a response to an armed black man with a stolen gun being shot by a black police officer....what conversation needs to be had about that?
Interesting that you are posting polls now. What about the polls that show Trump's low approval ratings?
It appears that you once again missed the point which is no surprise as your mind works in mysterious ways. I said that in every protest there are detractors such as yourself who say that the reasoning is invalid. Usually those people ignore facts and research just like you are continuing to do so in regards to the meaning behind this current protest. SAYING something is invalid doesn't make it true. PROVING that it is invalid makes it true. Show up with facts and evidence, not opinions.
You could use that same argument in an effort to justify literally anything....so it's a statement that is of no value. The fact that some people will be against it doesn't mean that they are wrong. A protest against interracial marriage would have people who would denounce it, does that mean that it is valid? Anyway, like I said before, this "protest" is an invalid one because it is based on a lie or a misrepresentation. The incident that triggered it was an armed black criminal being shot by a black police officer and rightfully so. There is no legitimate meaning to take from that, even if you try your best to come up with something.
Georgetown Law Faculty Take A Knee To Protest Jeff Sessions' Campus Visit “We, the undersigned, condemn the hypocrisy of Attorney General Sessions speaking about free speech,” the letter reads. “Sessions is a key cabinet member in an administration headed by a President who spent last weekend denouncing athletes engaging in free expression and calling for them to be fired.” “This kind of government chilling of speech is precisely what the First Amendment to the United States Constitution is meant to prevent,” the letter continues. “A man who fails to recognize paradigmatic violations of the First Amendment is a poor choice to speak about free speech on campuses.”
This is an irrelevant conversation anyway because Kaepernick wasn't out there on Sunday kneeling. Other players were out there protesting, and they were all united in protesting the current state of inequality.
Sure, other people took up chanting "Hands up, don't shoot" or whatever....but my point, which you can't refute, is that it was always based on a false narrative so it doesn't matter how many people jump on the bandwagon, it can't and it won't ever be legitimate. You talk about "the current state of inequality" as being what is being protested (and laughably assumes is actually a thing), but it's not possible that was the basis of the protest given that the incident that led to the protests beginning was when an armed black criminal was shot by a black police officer....it wasn't an example of inequality or racism, or really anything worthy of protest. The only real possibility is that the protests started in support of criminals and against cops in general. Otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense at all. It's like saying that the real purpose of a protest started in response to Kimberly Lucas being sentenced to life in prison for drowning a baby was to speak out against rape. That simply doesn't follow.
