It is really easy to find all of the bad parts of a game and call someone trash. Let me do the same for Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Ryan. In no way am I comparing Watson, but its really easy to be a naysayer when you get a chance to cherry pick. There are some posters in here that like doing that.
Watson clearly understands coverages. That is what we saw when he iso'ed Hopkins for the majority of the 4th. They were playing man, so throw to your best guy. Lets show a highlight package of Watson's 3rd down conversions and his 49 yard run to the house and declare him the goat.
LOL, don't cite QBR as if it's something that matters. Of all the QB metrics you could have possibly posted, QBR matters the least and it's not close.
Don't talk about negatives everyone has negatives! It's not fair to point out the issues Watson has because Tom Brady isn't perfect.
To me this point is that Watson has issues THROWING THE BALL. That is kind of an important problem to have when you are a quarterback. That doesn't mean he won't improve at reading defenses and his accuracy and arm strength, but he has to actually do it. Everyone already knows the positives, I don't think anyone doubts his leadership, work ethic, poise on the run or ability to evade the rush. He is already elite at those qualities. If he can even be average at throwing the ball he will likely be a pro bowler many times over.
It doesn't help that to go with the QB that is amazing at everything except those things related to throwing the football we have an O line that is amazing at everything but blocking.
If Ervin is one of his favorite targets he could do him a favor by not throwing him into dangerous situations... Ervin got lit up a lot in that game.
Yes, but my issue with the guy on twitter is that you call someone out for those certain plays and fail to credit the good ones where he showed arm strength and accuracy. Had he said, Watson has issues with footwork and it is causing him to be consistent from throw to throw. I would have had no issue with that. But when you make strong comments like, no NFL arm or oblivious to coverage then you deserve to be attacked for a biased opinion. Watson showed arm strength and accuracy. Tell me why he isn't at times. His take is as good as anyone on here without an explanation.
Literally every single quarterback has throws where he makes a completion. An analyst shouldn't be required to show you every single throw in order to discuss his issues. If he had 5 throws to the sidelines and only 1 was bad and we focused on that it would be cherry picking. However, he had like 3 or 4 in the game and none of them were good even if they got caught. That video for example to Hopkins he should have caught the ball, but it was still a terrible throw.
I don't think you understand what I was saying. I am not asking for him to show the good ones if he is pointing out what is causing those throws. He is just another guy like you or me who watches a bunch of football and can say outrageous things based off a negative cherry picked clip. He isn't providing any details. Just opinions. Its not a good take on his part. Making an outrageous comment like " this isn't an NFL arm" when there are multiple clips in the second half showing he has one is just ignorance. He is attracting a general football base and its a shame because he isn't showing the reasons for these poor throws. This same guy said Derek Carr was the next Nick Foles. He mentioned that Carson Wentz is Blake Bortles. Ludicrous.
I will say this, Watson's fans are certainly zealous. I can't imagine what it's gonna look like around here when he has his first legitimately good game if this is what we get after a game with 125 yards and a 75.9 QB rating (and before his fans have a stroke, a sweet 49 yard TD run). Imagine if he catches up to QB's like Jacoby Brissett or Brian Hoyer in passing yards per game so that he won't be dead last in that category among players who have started an NFL game this season. What if he caught all the way up to Case Keenum at 167 yards per game so that he'd be top 30 in the league? I bet it would be utter madness around here.
JJ Watt has zero sacks through two games. He must be one of the worst pass rushers in the game. Two game sample sizes are fun. So is always playing devil advocate, right?
JJ Watt has a history of success, Watson doesn't. If Watson has a successful game passing the ball in the NFL, it'll be his first ever, if JJ Watt gets a bunch of sacks, it'll be just another time he's done it. You simply can't compare the two given that Watt getting sacks is extremely likely....to the point where it is likely inevitable, Watson having success this season as a passer could very easily never happen.
I'm just pointing out that you are cherry picking a one and a half game set. One of those games was on a short week, with little to none first team reps in the past while playing with possibly the worst O-Line in the NFL with 3 WR and No TE's. So tell me, how is this statement on your part fair to make? Oh wait it isn't, and you are simply trolling. Got it.
@Bobbythegreat - I'll admit that I thought we'd screwed the pooch, by trading up for DW. That said, the guy has already demonstrated that his otherworldly elusiveness translates to the NFL ala Vick....in his FIRST START. AND, he's already shown poise beyond his years, all the while playing behind a crappy offensive line (which will be dramatically better by the end of the year)..This kid's going to get stronger and benefit from a ton more experience under his belt. It's obvious. He's got IT. A winner at every level...and that will include the NFL. We have our franchise QB. He's just getting started.
He played well the Super Bowl y Thursday was a good game. He didn't turn it over completed over sixty percent and scored and they won
SMH, fair enough Lin fan, your boy can do no wrong and if he does wrong, it's because Harden usurped his position at PG or whatever. I simply won't have those kinds of conversations in this forum. There are things I like about him.....but right now he's not an NFL caliber QB when it comes to passing the ball and I don't think it's productive for people to ignore that. If moving forward he figures out how to be an NFL caliber QB when it comes to passing the ball, then absolutely he could be a franchise caliber QB....but he's not that right now. As a passer, he hasn't shown to be an upgrade over what we had last season, which we all hoped was the worst it could get.
