ESPN anchor Jemele Hill called President Donald Trump a white supremacist.

What a flaky apology. Her corporate masters should suspend her for this but they won't

 

So...things that will happen before Melo is traded #1583

I haven't paid much attention to this, my ESPN give-a-damn checklist is pretty much:

Is there a game on?
Is CF Gameday on?

 

I think they are exactly the same, the only difference is that the crazies are MUCH more mainstream this time around. Just like with the birthers, there's nothing that Trump could do or say to sway the opinion of the crazies since that opinion was never based on anything concrete, it was based on politics and feelz.

 

Nah... These type of people(white supremacists) love it when a politician trickles out false statistics or fabricates stories about thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating 9/11 to justify their preconvied notions. It's kind of an epic display of cognitive dissonance when you claim the birther movement to be crazy and is the type of rhetoric that attracts these 'fringe' white supremacists....




















When the president, Donald Trump, was the freaking lead advocate and face of the ****ing movement for two ****ing years.

They have plenty of reasons to support Trump. His entire campaign was putting down the 'other' as the reason why middle America is full of meth heads and opiad addicts. His entire foray and acceptence into the right wing circle all began with the damn birther movement.

 

There is always a Trump tweet for every occasion:

 

I read the whole article that you linked. Agree with the premise or not, that is an excellent piece of writing.

 

Are you of the opinion that Donald Trump wouldn't have been fired for that comment if he worked for ESPN at the time? You might want to reconsider.

 

No, he just was elected US President... A far less significant role than ESPN anchor.

 

While you are correct, many of these people will simply never be swayed, they will continue to believe in their conspiracy theory that Jews are trying to replace white people and commit white genocide...

My fear (and others) is that he gets others to look into more radical positions and starts to slide them down a path of no return. For whatever reason, America has become more divided by race. Sure, it's not as bad as it was in the 50s and before that period, but it isn't good. I mean how long ago did a simple Cheerios ad become under fire for simply displaying a biracial family? That actually offended a portion of the country. Anything that promotes diversity in any way is now lambasted and hated by a portion of the country

There are other, smaller, situations like this that I simply couldn't imagine say 20 years ago, where it felt like from year to year things got better and better. I'm not going to blame Trump solely for that, but I will blame every president that doesn't look to address it head on from now on. But I will blame Trump for coddling it almost, with that birther issue, tweeting out fake crime stats about black people. I'll blame people like Bill O who helped pushed racial narratives as well...

and I'll even concede that BLM played some part in the division, I actually agreed if you recall about the Mike Brown thing. It ruined BLM because unlike other cases, Mike Brown proved to be the aggressor and instead of dropping that case immediately, many BLM protestors and leaders hung on to it, and it soured a lot of people on the simple tolerance of the movement. BLM did a lot of things wrong, and while I don't think the name is racist...it is easy for people to frame it that way. It was nice to start it that way, but as it grew they should have looked for a name that was far more encompassing than that.

All that said, I think Trump has just done more harm than good on the racial divide in this country and these aren't just birthers he should reach out to...it's a large chunk of the country, not just black americans but Hispanic, Muslim, and LGBT americans that feel betrayed and ignored by their president.

 

I think he's catching a lot of the blame, but the divide was exactly as it is now before he was in the picture. I mean, when the guy comes out and denounces violence and hate people find a way to twist that into support for white supremacy.....

What's weird is that if you listen to some the top problems in America right now are white supremacy and tranny rights.....when in reality any sane person would conclude that neither issue should even be a top 20 concern.

 

Yeah, it's extreme. He riffed it off his "First Black President" op/ed that exploded his popularity.

I think Trump works hard to embody that caricature in order to shore up his toxic attitude, but he's likely willing to go the other way if he can garner more votes off of it.

Definitely political, but he also juggling the personal and public facades probably out of the habit of throwing his opponents off guard.

If it sounds familiar, that's what most Tea Bag politicians did early on. Whether it's a different game, it's the same playbook.

 

Nominated for most naive post of the year. It's funny, ipaman even prefaces it with the reason why.

Not a knock on Obama or Clinton specifically, although Clinton in particular routinely said whatever he thought that particular audience wanted to hear. That's what made him a great politician. Politics is far too often the art of lying and getting people to believe you. Anyone who doesn't understand that really doesn't understand politics at all. It isn't giving the people what they want. It is making them think you are. Obama and Clinton clearly worked their magic on Ipaman, and he doesn't even realize it.

Where Trump fails at this is he targets only those who support him anyway. The real trick is doing this to expand your base. Clinton and Obama were great at this. Trump? Not so much....almost the opposite, in fact. I do like him reaching out to Dems now, and seeing the reaction of Republicans in Congress is funny. Yes, if you can't do a damn thing, the President might reach out to others. Duh! Reaching across groups to get things done was the one thing I thought Trump might be good at. Until now, he hadn't been doing that.

 

Never thought Trump was an actual white supremacist, he just understood how to tap their ignorance and emotions to get support.

 

I agree with this.

 

Some of you guys are pretending that all things are equal when referencing racially charged dialogue from either side.
Most people would agree that racism has a history of bullying black people, right? Only recently have black people began to fight the bully back, however even in it's worst case white people have not been exposed widespread dehumanization that African Americans suffered at the hands of the bully. What are you arguing? Black racism is equal to white racism? Somehow evidence of both either be punished in the same way?

The bully picked the fight, now he's being called out and exposed for the coward that he is. If you think the victim of the deed should be punished, then I hope that you're never assaulted. If so, don't get upset with whoever empathizes with whoever kicked your ass.

Should Jemele suffer some kind of corporate pushback for what she said? Probably.
Was she right in expressing her feelings given her platform? Probably.

 

I think the divide wasn't what it is now, yes before he came into power, yeah it was there. I agree with that

As for your 2nd point, this is exactly Jemel's point though. That the issues are different for everyone else. If you're a transsexual, then yes, that is a concern for you. I'm not, so I will admit that it isn't a primary concern for me, but that I'd like to obviously see them maintain the rights they have and be granted whatever other rights they may not have as long as they don't infringe upon others rights.

If you are black, then yes, keeping White Supremacy in check is vitally important to you. In fact, this is the most important issue given history is to be ever vigilant on this issue. I do think Jemele went overboard with it (because I don't think Trump is an actual white supremacist), but she made points that from her POV as a black woman, will hit home for many others like her.

 

dude c'mon you're gonna deny that clinton and obama are some of the best orating presidents we've ever had? both of them compared to trump who makes bush sound like cicero?!?! with opinions like that i can't take you serious bro...

 

Trump is a piece of **** racist.

Fire me b**** lol

 

Fyi there's a Trump tweet for everything lmao

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aracter-assassination/?utm_term=.2c06f0595db0

 

Shouldn't that be the goal? Or should there be a period where black racism is OK? And if so, how long should that period last?