Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios

It isn't that Cleveland might not make new offers. It's whether (a) Carmelo will acquiesce (b) the offer sours NYK on whatever the Rockets might have put together at the moment.

I still say this is all a holdup until someone in the trade (probably a three way deal) gets paid a wad of money by his current team as per his contract (Ryan Anderson?) before pre-season so that the receiving team isn't on the hook for the player's entire deal. But, hey...these could be the Energizer (TM) bunny of negotiations.

 

30 pages from 500.

 

Melo will be here in a week we can get 30 pages in a week dude

 

Why are you stuck saying the trade can't expand. The trade can easily expand. And why does Lebron the GM care whether they keep the pick or not.

For those who keep saying "Nothing to see here", explain to us why CLE is news again. Seems you are just saying there is nothing new here,,,,as reassurance to us and yourself that CLE isn't trying to make a new offer that NYKs haven't seen before.

Either it's fake news "Nothing new", which it could be, or it is something new. This can't just be CLE calling to say, "Are you sure you won't take that Love deal we offered in July."

You guys sound like you are actually worried there is something new, and huddling together to comfort each other and drawn out all outside news.

 

She recorded all the highlights

 

I know the trade can expand. Cavs would be NUTS to trade a top five pick for 33 year old Melo. No gm with half a brain would make that deal. If they trade it its gonna be for someone like Cousins. Please man. Please. Yes cavs can put up a good offer somehow I'm sure. Until I hear melo is expanding his list its non news.

 

I honestly think the Knicks want to do the Jabari deal but the Bucks want a 1st from NY in return for taking Ryan Anderson.

 

Damn she's beautiful

 

NY gonna bleep that pick up anyway. Should be itching to trade it.

 

OK, so you agree then that CLE is probably bringing something new to the table, and may expand this to include more players and maybe even more teams....rather than just the Love deal all over again. Right? You agree that the news may indeed be something new.

It's either Fake News, or some new idea by CLE. It's not "Hey Knicks, just calling again to see if you'd do that Love deal we discussed in July."

Quit assuming the only possible thing besides the Love deal would be BKN for Melo, with nothing more in return. By taking the position that any discussion of the BKN pick can be dsimissed with "No way BKN for Melo straight up", you are in denial saying that the BKN pick can't be used in anything involving getting Melo to CLE...of course that's not true.

 

Understood. But like I said its irrelevant until he wants to go there.

 

Exactly what I was thinking, looks unreal!!!

 

I am simply looking at their assets, and I don't see much to be worried about. The BK pick is not in play in any Melo trade. Melo is not worth that pick and it's not even close. I don't see why they would give up IT either or why NY would want him. If anything new is being offered, then it might be Crowder. However, if Love is still on the team then what is the point of adding Melo and why would Melo even want to go there? What would his role be there and how many minutes would he get?

Cleveland is not trading that BK pick unless they are getting a player on the level of a Jimmy Butler or Paul George in return. Giving up the BK pick for Melo is worse than Indy giving up PG for Dipo and Sabonis, a lot worse. Melo's value has been established, and it is well below that of a potential top 5 pick in the 2018 draft. That pick is Cleveland's insurance in case Lebron leaves. They're gonna give that up for 1-2 years of Melo?

Where are u getting that I said that Love isn't going to get it done? I am saying that they have never been willing to even offer him up. If they were, then a Melo deal would've been done long ago. It has been reported that the Knicks had asked for him in a Melo trade and the Cavs were not willing to do a deal for Melo that included Love. If they are now willing to do so, then that would change things.

 

Im starting to worry that we are moving too fast actually lol. I feel like we will be at 500 in like 3 ish days.

Hopefully it all lines up to around the start of training camp (my prediction is a range anywhere between 10 days before camp starts and 10 days after camp starts) thats the melo hot spot IMO

 

this is the thing tho, there never was a Kevin Love deal...Cleveland has never offered him up, if they had a deal would've been done long ago

NY wanted Kevin Love, Cleveland did not want to give him up for Melo...this has been reported

 

Agree. That's the one thing keeping my fears of CLE's ability to outbid us in three different ways at bay. Melo still has to OK it.

I'm not one to get involved in trade speculation, but has no one here actually tossed around the idea of CLE going for a package of Porzingis and Melo, since Porkchops is somewhat disgruntled....and NYK's might be able to sell the fans on the BKN pick plus a tanking year to get two Top 5s in the same draft...plus a 3rd FRP.

Is there really no one working the trade machine for a 3-way deal like this. which might get Melo to wave his NTC:

CLE = BKN+Thomas+Love out and Melo and Porzingis In
NYK = BKN+Another FRP+Thomas in and Melo/Porz out
3rd Team = Love in and FRP to Knicks

 

I thought the same at 420. I didn't want to comment though and add to the total, like I am doing now.

 

Last I heard NY wanted to get younger so dealing for love is a no go. Plus I think porzingis has more upside. Also why would they trade for Thomas with that rumor that he is damage goods.

And less than 30 pages to go. We can do it guys

 

Nah. I 'suspect' we just might see Rino/EGo -- Melo/carcass once known as Noah.

 

You are in denial by saying this. You are clinging to the idea that any talk of the BKN pick is undeniably a bad trade, because BKN for only Melo in return is bad.

You're not a very good fantasy GM if you are restricting discussion of BKN to only Melo. There are 3rd teams who can get involved and such. Put it this way, if the roles were reversed and we were CLE fans with Morey as their GM, many here would be trying to figure out how we could use the BKN pick in a much bigger deal to land Melo and even more pieces. Morey wouldn't be saying, "Oh, screw this, I can only think of BKN for Melo and that's not good enough return...so I'm not going to bother thinking anymore."