FBI, DHS Officially Classify Antifa Activities As "Domestic Terrorist Violence"

so if someone come's out as or associates themselves with nazi/neo nazi/KKK/white supremacist then they're evil

not sure why waiting for an "act" like plowing someone dead or mass murdering millions of jews is necessary before someone calls them evil

 

My question is relevant to an argument I'm making that is relevant to your thread topic.

So answer the question.

Do you think someone of the protesters who later joined and marched along side the self labeled neo Nazis are 'good people' as the president described them?

Simple 'yes' or 'no'.

The main reason I want you to answer the question is because I want you to understand why moderates and liberals are upset at the president and why it's his own fault why we are still discussing Charlottesville.

 

You should probably re-read all of our conversation, because you seem to be really trying to twist my words to fit your narrative. If you come out or associate yourself as a white supremacist, in my book you're already committing evil acts (to some extent) because that already affects other people. We're in agreement here.

As I said from the very beginning, BELIEFS/THOUGHTS ALONE don't make you evil.

 

our conversation started when you can't simply answer this with a yes or no

Nazi/Neo Nazi/KKK/White Supremacists supporters, do you agree that what they believe in and stand for is absolutely evil???

they = Nazi/Neo Nazi/KKK/White Supremacists

then you started saying they're only thoughts...

 

Ya, but at least they don't think their ethnicity is superior and don't want to exterminate Jews.

 

Many people think their belief system is superior. That still doesn't put them on the same moral plane as believing that your ethnicity is superior and having a desire to eliminate an entire ethnicity out of existence.

 

Well, that's not the only people they attack though, if there isn't any opposition present, they are just as happy to attack media that show up to cover their BS or really just anyone that happens to be nearby. They are hateful violent little bastards exactly like the hateful violent little bastards they claim to be against.

Anyone who can't unequivocally denounce not only their actions but their ideology as well is simply a bad person.

 

Mojo on a KKK apologist spree. Sad.

This seems to be part of the Trumpanzee handbook, post ad nauseam with nonsense to spread the Trump propaganda.

 

Starts a Donald Trump, KKK apologist thread, claims it's not a Trump KKK, apologist thread, still waiting for Cruz to make his move. Waiting.... waiting...

 

When one begins and argument with "at least ...", they seem to have some support or sympathy. I dont think i've seen anyone here say, "at least the KKK..."

Nobody here has voiced any remote supports KKK/Nazism/White Supremacist, despite whatever false narrative some here want to build. There seems to be a few of you here who refuse to denounce AntiFa, even when our government has labeled them a threat.

Its pretty sad when some of you use the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' logic when it comes to AntiFa.

There is no room for this type of violence or ideology in this country. You should be denouncing it.

 

There were good people.on both sides according to the president.

And it's obvious that this is nothing more than a sleight of hand by the GOP in order to protect their establisment/base along with their failed president. "The left has just as bad extremists, so problem solved!".

 

The genisys of this move is Donald Trump's both sides argument which is of course your specialty. That you're too full of **** to recognize this is your fault, not anyone else's. He is a white supremacist sympathizer and this is yet another example of it. You bunch of "I didn't vote for Trump" but apologize for every stupid thing he does trolls should be ashamed of yourselves. It is just disgusting.

This whole antifa thing is about political enemies, nothing else.

 

Core philosophy of Antifa= literally stand for anti facism. Modeled after pre WW2 groups who stood up to Musselini and Hitler. Believe pacifism will not get anything accomplished and physical violence isn't off the table even though arms haven't been used by US based groups yet in modern era. No murders on record in US known.

Core philosophy of KKK and white supremacy groups= ethic cleaning to further Dominant race. Sometimes through mass extinction and genocide. Establish Aryan nation of pure European race. Have recorded many terrorist acts such as OKC bombing, Dylan Roof massacre, etc. ,massive Robberies and mob like criminal organization. And idolize Hitler and still have ties to the Nazi party that fled Europe after WW2.

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So.... my biggest question is if I'm wrong here about the violence, where are the police force at in this country unless Antifa is recruiting Jason Bourne trained super assassins that never get caught? Yes... I know they have been known to punch Nazis like Richard Spencer and they will get hostile in protests. Maybe even destroy property.

These are not effective methods and they didn't work pre WW2 and actually gave the excuse for more power to be given to facist leaders. This is a gift to Trump and his facism loving super fans who want nothing more than an excuse to consolidate more power. The right is becoming increasing more paranoid and drunk on the power of one of their own Internet troll leaders getting unbridled power, and looking to kick into high gear. Antifa is incredibly bad because it's a gift to Trump and it's predictable how him and his fans will use it.

However ... I've seen ZERO evidence to suggest these groups are dangerous to society on face value given the lack of crimes broken that have led to arrests, and their core ideology is one that is generally accepted as a progressive societal structure. Socialism and communism (while highly critical and seceptable to corruption) is globally a fairly normal governmental society structure. Democracy is far more palatable but other governments utilizing Antifas desired state have more stable and acceptable that facism.

This moral equivalency argument is beyond stupid and if you are arguing for it I just have to objectively say you are pursuing an agenda that is essentially pro facism yourself... as long as it's your facist leader looking to benifit by pursuing this Anti Antifa agenda that will give pure power to an actual Facist by you preaching their doctrine for them.

Think very hard about what you guys on the right are doing here and pick up a G Damn history book for crying out loud.

And Antifa idiots.. stop it!