Body-cam video of nurse arrest by S.L. Police gets strong reaction

Saying "I think how it works is...", is acting like an expert? Didn't mean to come off like that.

No I don't know, but am anxious to find out if (well definitely not just LE acting on their own) but if even courts could legally force any one medical professional in particular to do something like that.

 

It wasn't directed at you, which is why I quoted the "expert" . You were right on the last part btw. For example, I can't force a cath into someone I want to get a urine sample for a drug test. Failure to obtain consent or going through the proper channels as a physician can result in suspension of your license, or worse.

The nurse is an employee and probably wouldn't face as big of backlash, but even she was afraid of the repercussions. Patients have rights.

Even then, his actions warrant termination due to his conduct and how he handled the whole situation. What he did was pretty much the definition of abuse of power.

 

The hospital is required to produce the sample, not the employee. If the employee refuses a court order, they face disciplinary action by the employer, not by law enforcement.

 

There are scenarios where quitting would make you guilty. It's similar to a deadbeat dad who quits his job to avoid making child support payments, they can throw you in jail for quitting in that situation....I know this because that exact situation happened to an ex husband of someone I know. If it is your job to do something that there is a court order for you to do and you obstruct the investigation by refusing to comply or even by quitting, you can be arrested for it.

Of course, that wasn't the situation here in that there was no court order. Honestly the nurse did the right thing by not doing the blood draw without consent or a warrant. It seems the officer just didn't know the law or didn't care.

 

He wanted a short cut in due process because the victim of the car crash might have been a perpetrator in another case. Problem is there is not any justifiable evidence other than the cop had a hunch due to car make, resemblance, or coincidence. Many detectives, cops, investigators break the law when they want a short cut. It happens every single minute of our lives.

 

My guess is both.

 

Nurse is following hospital procedure. The cop shouldn't be arresting her.

After watching another full vid. The cop talking to her while she was handcuffed in the car should be fired asap. He said he was an officer for 22yrs, yet he didn't know the law? This is incompetence at its finest. If you have been an officer for 22yrs and didn't know the law about this, then you should never work as an officer ever again. Talk about the police department somehow letting this guy fall through the crack.

 

The law actually changed not that long ago (two or three years). Prior to that, you could do a forced blood draw because of exigent circumstances (like blood alcohol being processed by the body) but the court ruled that a warrant is now required. In this instance, being on the force for 22 years would be a hindrance, because probably all the time this guy was doing DUI enforcement, you were allowed to do a forced blood draw. Cops are supposed to keep up to date on changes to the law though, so that doesn't excuse his behavior.

 

Right, ignorance of the law isn't a valid defense.

If I break the law, say driving too close the a bicycle rider, I can't claim I wasn't aware of the 3ft rule as a defense. Apparently, the Supreme Court ruled 10 years ago that blood is personal property and requires a warrant. The cop is simply a bully (as too many cops are).

 

didn't 22 years on the force didn't teach him that laws change and he needs to be updated and informed? I mean he was supposedly an expert on drawing blood..

 

If he was on the force for 22 years and still acted like that I would take the "retraining" off the table, he's gotta be fired.

 

Now when i think about it, he probably did know, but wanted to bend the law and see if his bullying would work.

 

Nurse was clearly violent and aggressive -- she was never arrested only detained for her protection.

 

Please don't mention Trayvon Martin in police incidents. The first problem with the Trayvon Martin situation are the stand your ground laws. His situation didn't involve a police officer.

All these situations are individual situations. I defend the police a lot. This guy just looks ridiculous chasing her around.

 

The law was changed 10 years ago, these cops are so lazy and crap at their jobs they didn't know it.

What is that saying?

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

Yeah, that is the one.

DD

 

I don't know about the state of affairs in Utah, but nationally, the Supreme Court ruling on the issue was four years ago. Missouri v. McNeely, 133 S.Ct. 1552 (2013) if you want to go full Reading Rainbow.

 

I'm guessing probably trying to protect his police department? His police department was involved in a high speed chase that resulted in this car crash, maybe if he managed to find traces of alcohol or drugs in the victim's body, perhaps his department can shift some of the blame over to the victim & avoid a $$$ settlement??

 

This. Poorly trained and poorly paid, what do folks expect?

 

God, University police are the absolute worst.