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FBI, DHS Officially Classify Antifa Activities As "Domestic Terrorist Violence"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Acknowledging that one violent extremist group is a violent extremist group does not "divert attention" away from the fact that other violent extremist groups are violent extremist groups. I don't think there is anyone that doesn't realize that neo nazi groups and white supremacist groups like the KKK are violent extremists, it's just something not in question. What is in question is that groups like AntiFa are violent extremist groups given that there were puff pieces written all over the place calling them heroes very recently. I don't think you'd find anyone in the mainstream doing the same for a white supremacist group or nazi group.

    When groups have widespread mainstream acceptance, it makes it all the more important to point out the awful things they do and that's what people are doing when they bring up that AntiFa is nothing but a violent extremist group or when they bring up the roots and extremist views of leaders in the BLM nonsense. If those groups weren't socially acceptable, it would be less necessary to bring those things up.
     
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  2. MojoMan

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    It is actually NewRoxFan who is trying to divert attention away from the Antifa terrorist group, which he and quite a few among the Democrat left routinely display a remarkable amount of sympathy and protectiveness towards.
     
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    I quoted your defense of white supremacist groups... if you accuse me of "sympathy" or "protectiveness" towards any group... post them here.
     
  4. MojoMan

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    Now include the rest of the second quote, you liar.
     
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    Your entire post:

    Your partisanship compulsion to criticize "the other side" has led you to defending supremacist and KKK groups. Which is a despicable position.

    So now... post anything of I have written you believe supports any groups being discussed.
     
  6. apollo33

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    Anti fa engaging in violent activities is what is diverting attention away from the KKK

    if counter-protests were peaceful it sends a better message. All antifa is instigate more violence and chaos.
     
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  7. Shroopy2

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    Antifa is domestic terrorism certified. Ok.

    The act of lessening even any bit of KKK white power supremacy because those members are within your party, still very inexcusable.

    Antifa is violent and shouldnt do what they do. Right. Do not then think "KKK presence is more validated now!" JUST so it can make their political party look less bad. Because cocaine dealers crash into your area, that means your meth dealers are okay fighting a better fight?

    The ONLY rationale for softening is to say you already HAVE PROBLEMS with garbage in your own yard, and its not cool for others to dump THEIR litter into it and make it even messier. Thats plenty fair and correct. But it still requires that you IDENTIFY YOUR OWN garbage as garbage, when it historically has ALWAYS been called garbage. And your garbage was there FIRST setting all the crap in motion to begin with. Thats the issue here.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Has anyone actually done that though? The puff pieces written recently were about AntiFa and not about any white supremacy group like the KKK or neo-Nazi groups. White supremacy groups are almost universally denounced, including by the president so I'm not really sure what you are talking about.
     
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  9. CometsWin

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    LOL False equivalency, the Trump doctrine.

    This really just adds to the embarrassment of the white supremacist in chief's "both sides" garbage. What a **** show.
     
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  10. MojoMan

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    Terrorism is evil, regardless of what group carries it out. Anyone who fails to give a full throated denouncement of this sort of conduct by either of these groups (or any other) leaves the impression that they are sympathetic and therefore at least somewhat supportive of whatever terrorist group or activities it is that they are refusing to passionately denounce.

    As for me, I unequivocally denounce both of these two groups (Nazis/KKK and Antifa), not to mention the radical Islamic terrorist groups. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

    The failure of the apparent Antifa sympathizers in this thread to offer a similarly unequivocal denunciation of these groups will tell us all where you really stand, loud and clear.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Do you agree with Trump that there were good people protesting with the white supremacists?
     
  12. MojoMan

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    Deflection attempt denied. Either denounce BOTH of these groups unequivocally, or refuse. The meaning will be clear either way. I did. Now it is your turn.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    I won't denounce them on equal moral equivalence. I denounce the petty and disruptive tactics of dijointed movements like antifa but I denounce and am disgusted with the core ideology of Nazism. One is a reactionary movement that has immature and naive members who lack self-awareness and are overly idealistic.

    The other side makes moral claims about how to perceive other ethnicities that are not like them.


    The fact that I know I'm a moderate man and am confident in saying that Nazis are far worse than Antifa and every conservative posters here can only say at best that 'THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!' speaks volumes. There is no defense of Nazism. It's far more vile.

    The fact that our current president is willing to say that people who marched along side Nazis were 'good people' is enough for me to know that this man is trying to white wash white supremacist rhetoric in this country. If that was a protest started by ISIS supporters and people joined with them, I bet your Donald anal plugged ass that the Donald wouldn't have said 'there were good people on both sides'.

    Also, people who equate BLM to neo-nazis are racist. There is no doubt about that in my mind.
     
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  14. CometsWin

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    Laughable. Antifa wasn't even a thing until Trump and his racist hooligans, and you can now count yourself as one, started propagandizing them into some boogeyman. You're too full of **** to be ashamed of yourself. Sad.

    The KKK, a centuries old organization that has murdered, raped, kidnapped, and terrorized tens of thousands of people has been put into a class with Antifa, a bunch of vandals that break windows. Give me a ****in break.
     
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    Can anyone help me understand why the average (law-abiding and not white nationalist, neo-nazi, etc.) citizen should be afraid of these Antifa folks? I mean, if these guys are really terrorists, which innocent people are they targeting?
     
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  16. Bobbythegreat

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    It's no surprise that you'd be ignorant on this issue as you are ignorant on most issues. AntiFa's origins go back to the 30's in Germany when they were formed by the Communist party in that country and unintentionally helped the Nazi party finish securing power in the country. AntiFa are more than just "vandals that break windows", they are radical communists....and do we really need to get into the absolute horrors that their ideology has brought the world?

    If you are too stupid or biased to call out all violent extremists, don't bother calling any of them out, it'll just make you a hypocrite.
     
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    Angry white people.
     
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    They're activities may very well lead to Donald Trumps re-election, so you should be afraid of that. They are the democratic parties worst enemy.

    A huge factor in his success is the persecution complex (fairly or unfairly) that a large portion of white america feels. These dumbasses bullying disabled veterans, tossing around molotov cocktails and in general being agitators at gatherings are giving a body to this invisible persecutor the right feels exists. People who might be on the precipice of realizing how stupid their support of Trump is will see this crap and fall right back in line with his clownshow.

    Anybody who isn't a fan of Trump should hate these guys.
     
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    Wouldn't you say these groups are even worse? They don't even have the excuse of their homes being bombed by drones.
     
  20. MojoMan

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    Good observation. But that would require them to use their brains and override both the emotional connection that many on the Democrat left feel with Antifa and what they are doing, and also with their overt opposition to voices that are not regarded as politically correct. Clearly, a very heavy lift.

    If they are smart, they will realize what you say. In fact, certain Democrat leaders including Nancy Pelosi have come around and are now openly and aggressively condemning Antifa for the lawless thugs that they are. Your post explains why. But leftists tend to operate based on emotion and the appearance of political correctness. Man this is a big ask.
     

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