Questions for Conserative/libertarians after Harvey.

That man made gases are a significant contributing factor in climate change, 90%+ of climate research scientist agree with this.

 

I never suggested that they weren't a contributing factor and as to a "significant contributing factor", it depends on how you want to define that. With certain definitions and qualifiers, you could get a considerable percentage of climate scientists to agree, with other definitions and without qualifiers, you could not.

The climate would be warming no matter what humans did or didn't do, but there are some activities that can add to it in a small way. If you qualify your statement as saying man made gasses are a significant contributing factor to "additional warming", then I'm sure you could get people to agree, but not really significant (depending on what you mean by significant) in the context of the overall climate changes.

Like I said, there's no global thermostat to set.

 

Ever wonder why it is cooler to be barefoot on sand or grass compared to concrete? The sun impacts both surfaces just the same, but we perceive one surface hotter than the other? I would argue that the climate has essentially remained the same, but the perception we have to it has widely varied. Houston used to be a swamp and would have tolerated this very storm much differently in the past...Fast forward to today, when there are numerous developments and millions of miles of concrete poured all over town...suddenly things that used to work...dont do so as well anymore. hmm. You are entitled to your opinions and theories, but dont claim that science answers them empirically.

 

when did either of these events happen? Never thought asking someone for their science would be so controversial.

 

Use Google Scholar if you truly are curious. Vox merely summarizes findings and makes it entertaining.

 

You do realize that you just used a scientific argument for why the city holds more flood water now than it would have in the past when it was less developed, right?

 

Houston's land use policies are to blame. Yes libertarian/conservative/big business is the reason why we don't set aside more land for retention or spend more money on flood control in general.

Libertarians incorrrectly believe there's some actual free market solution here and conservatives/big business wants to pass the cost along directly to consumer, completely skipping over businesses.

 

Because you asked for evidence and then declined to even read an article solely based on your perceived bias of the source. If you had actually looked at the article, you might have even found yourself agreeing with the very first bullet point in the article:

 

I have no desire to give a dishonest and inaccurate site like VOX clicks which add to their revenue. Boycotting an inappropriate company is not unreasonable.

 

Please, it's not like you're at all interested in having an honest discussion anyways. Quit concern trolling and just go ahead and type out your "Climate change is a hoax created by Democrats and scientists to steal our hard earned tax money herp a derp a derp" post and be done with it. There's nothing that's ever going to change your mind, you're too much of a slave to your warped ideology.

 

Well this was certainly an emotionally stable response. Stop arguing like you know me and please link to where i posted climate change is a hoax. Nobody even knows what you people mean anymore by climate change. do you mean the climate is changing?

 

They switch interchangeably between saying "climate change" which is something that almost no one disputes and "anthropogenic climate change" which is also something that happens to some extent but the 2 are not the same thing at all. My analogy of the guy out in his front yard with his water hose running into a flooded street is a good example of how the guy is contributing to the flood.....but you can't say that the flood is happening because of the guy and his hose.

 

Huh? I'm emotionally fine, thanks for checking. I stated exactly what you believe, case in point:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/climate-change.278411/page-3#post-10766217

 

Anyone who is objective, made it through highschool, and has a legitimate desire to find out, knows exactly what climate change is and how to learn more about it.

If you can't figure how to find information on it, then it's too complex a topic for you and you should abstain from having an opinion on it.

 

Well where do you go for your climate change news?

 

Let's see if Tallanvor can answer where he gets his climate change news from in my response to him...

I love these faux intellectual posters....

 

They get it from their far right-wing propaganda machines, usually in the form of blog type articles that cry about liberals and pretend to be real news. The Pentagon, NASA and just about every government in the world believes that human activity is significantly contributing to climate change but nah let's believe Ted Cruz instead.

 

where does that say climate change is a hoax? and again what are you trying to call climate change? It appears you think climate change means the earth is doomed unless humans drastically alter their ways because that's clearly whats being referred to above.

what climate change news? i havent posted any or even my opinion on climate change. If you point to it, ill tell you were its from.

 

LOL. Sorry, "greatest propaganda effort this country has ever seen." Yeah, that makes you sound much better.

 

do you disagree? Name a scientific belief that's been pushed more than the belief that the earth will burn up if we dont change our ways.

Again i still have no idea what you are referring to when you say climate change. please tell me what you mean. Do you simply mean the climate is changing?