Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios

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Reeko, why would LeBron go to any Western team when the East gives him an unfettered route to the Finals? Can you answer that? Over there, he will get to the Finals for the rest of his career. Over here, he may never return to the Finals. That plus the fact that Cleveland just became much better (in my view) will compel him to stay. What "evidence" or reason do you reply upon to insist that he will leave? Because the media says so? Because others do? Because he is disappointed in the Cavs offseason (until today)? How do any of those reasons stack up against the facts that (1) the East gets him to the Finals every year, and (2) CLE will be better at seasons end next year than any other team (except GSW)? He wants to win. Staying put is his best route. Please explain what I am missing.

Maybe I misread CF. Maybe folks have not been clamoring about LBJ's departure to LA, it just seems that way.

 

I'm starting to agree. Morey should move on.. He will be a cav within two weeks.

 

NY seems to have given Melo their word that he would be dealt to Houston. Are they now gonna go back on their word? Melo is repped by Leon Rose of CAA, and that is a powerful agency. The Knicks should know all about them.

You trash him all year and try to coerce him to waive his NTC. You also lower his value in the process. Melo stays professional throughout all the nonsense. Then he's finally ready to leave which was not an easy decision for him, and u say that you'll send him to Houston. Now you're gonna say "nah, I'm good" and keep him? They have the right to do so, but it's not a good look. They handled this poorly IMO. They should've tried to get Melo to waive his NTC in a professional manner, and they shouldn't tell him that he'll be traded to Houston before even having a deal that they liked.

 

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Thumbs up my man. Way up!

 

LeBron is not leaving Isaiah, Melo, Marc and Jae.

 

Haha. "Holding your player ransom" Dude, the way you look at things is the problem with the delusion thats being expressed in this forum. Yes, they should do right by him. But not giving him up for Ryno OR a Ryno like contract (3 more years, 8 digits and useless production) isn't holding him ransom, it isn't doing him wrong, its simply doing whats best for the team. The Knicks are actually doing pretty right by him by not coming out and saying "We would like to trade him but he refuses to co-operate" which let's be honest, is exactly whats going on. Yes, they gave him the "no trade" clause, which was obviously going to be your rebuttal, but a NTC doesn't mean you have to make the trade he wishes either. Also, they haven't even publicly said he must leave, leaving the door open for him to stay in the eyes of the fans.

 

Exactly. There are a lot of things in business and life that you "can" do. But that doesn't always mean its the "right" thing to do and can affect your rep.

 

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This is the truth.

 

I mean, it's not too crazy LeBron would go to a ready built team to win the championship in the West.

A team where he could sit 20 games out of the regular season if he wanted to.

A team where he has someone comfortable carrying the workload he usually does, meaning he can rest a lot more.

Cleveland just became much better.... Do you honestly think LeBron is sitting wherever he is sitting right now and thinking "f*ck yeah, Jae Crowder. That's EXACTLY what we were missing against the Warriors in the Finals. He will get us those 3 Ws easily"

Why are you so delusional in thinking he's staying? He left Cleveland before to win a championship. He will leave Cleveland again to win a championship because guess what - LeBron, Curry, and every single person's momma knows LeBron is not winning another Championship in Cleveland.

Got to question your logic here in claiming only the Warriors will be better come seasons end... yet the Celtics just got much better AND they already finished better than the Cavs at seasons end. So did the Rockets, who just got better.

And then I really question your logic when you yourself claim he wants to win. Staying put is not his best route. I thought the absolute beatdown he received in the NBA Finals would've made that clear as day.

 

All I know is once he's a rocket we can finally end all this BS

 

You need to take a long hard look at recent history with disgruntled players.

That's my rebuttal.

 

Lol yes he is... that team cant be the warriors

 

Ok.

Paul George. "Will only resign with LA. Trade me to LA." Traded to OKC
Kyrie. "Here is a list of teams I'd like to go to: Spurs, Heat, Twolves, NY" Traded to Boston
Spare your next rebuttal, cuz the point doesn't involve the specifics of those situations. The point is teams will do right by the player if they like what they get in return.
CP "Trade me to Houston." Traded to Houston for some great team-friendly contracts, two young players and a 1st round pick

How do you guys need see the simple truth?? As of now we do not have any assets (we're willing to lose) to make this work. Your theory about "hurt image" will never trump a crappy package.

 

Not one of those players had a... (sigh) nevermind

 

lol wut.

 

Players, Agents and agency's run the league now ..... just look at the CP3 trade as a prime example

For people who think otherwise. They are "delusional rockets fans" as Quincy put it

 

The 'deal' is a cadaver? The cadaver here is this here asinine thread.

We'll see whatever there is to see; soon. Imminently. Mebbe...

 

I take it you've never read this guy's posts before.

 

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Well, you are changing the parimeters of the debate on me. I said it was unlikely he would join the Lakers or leave for an East coast team. I stand by that. No East team will be better with LeBron than the Cavs will be with LeBron. So, he will not leave for another East team. Joining the Lakers makes even less sense because they will not be the best West team even with LeBron.

Now, if you are raising the possibility that he could join another West coast team that, with him, could beat GSW, that is possible. But again, I think it's just speculation.

And I am not sure that Melo will rule out Cleveland based only on the speculation that LBJ COULD join a West coast team at next season's end. Melo joining CLE this year makes CLE a dominant force and a potential champion. I think Melo will be weighing the chances that he and Bron can win a championship together in 17-18 (which would surely bring LBJ back to CLE for the 18-19 season). And that's a real possibility, greater than speculation.

I would love to have Melo here. I just think that got harder tonight.

 

It's not about just getting to the finals, it's about being capable of actually beating GS. What's so good about getting to the finals if you're team isn't good enough to win it all? Lebron can keep going to the finals and keep losing until his finals record is 3-7, or 3-8, etc. Let's be honest, he's lucky that he beat GS back in 2016. He had to come back from a 3-1 deficit. Now they've added KD. These guys aren't going anywhere. He's gonna have to face GS eventually, if Houston gives him a better chance of actually beating them then that may appeal to him. If he gets by GS in the West, then who is he facing in the finals? The Celtics? That's light work.

There's been a lot of evidence that suggests he may leave.

-it was reported that the GM for the Cavs had been given the mandate to approach the Kyrie trade as if Lebron would not be there next year
-Lebron and Dan Gilbert do not have a good relationship
-the Cavs handled the firing of David Griffin poorly and did not manage to finalize a deal for Paul George...they now have a rookie GM who did end up with a nice deal for Kyrie, but he's still a rookie GM that Lebron might not have much trust in
-it was reported that Kyrie wanted to take control of his own career and part of the reason he requested a trade is because he did not want to be stuck in Cleveland once Lebron leaves

the Cavs got better, but not exponentially better...IT still hasn't fully recovered from his hip injury and is basically a shorter, older version of Kyrie that isn't as proven in the playoffs...I like Crowder, but he's still just a role player...we'll see if they try to upgrade the team by dealing that 2018 BK pick

I think u misread CF...I don't think many people are taking Lebron to LA too seriously...more people are talking about Lebron to Houston and not just because they're homers, people have been bringing up very valid points for why that could happen