Another Day Another Uneducated Angry White Trumpanzee

For an attack to be a terror attack, it has to be committed for a political purpose. For example, Dylan Roof killed eight black people in a church in what he openly described as motivated by racism. That was a terror attack. No question. What was the motive here? Not what does the near-hysterical lynch mob crowd cry out that it is. No, that is not how it is determined. If the driver was trying to kill or harm people in order to instill fear based on the political motive of racism, then it was a terror attack. Do we know this yet? It is not clear to me that we do, but I have not been following the details of this as closely as some people here.

When I see this sort of KKK group or the Westburo church crowd organizing a protest, I cringe because these people are so vile. I disagree with them profoundly and support nothing that they do. Do I go out to physically attack or antagonize them? Of course not. They and the commies and the pro-abortion murderers and the leftist sympathizers with al-qaeda and other terrorist groups need to be allowed to speak. If they are not, then it is just a matter of time before this right is lost forever.

But what sort of threat do the KKK/Nazi symathizer types pose? There are apparently not more than about 10,000 nationwide and when was the last time they held a protest march with more than a hundred people? These people are the fringe of the fringe of the fringe. They are irrelevant, except in their power to draw opposition that is willing to effectively partner with them to make a scene such as we saw last weekend. Without their opponents, they are a page 27 below the fold article that is just a curiosity. Without these people to start $&!% with them, they are nothing. And actually, they are still nothing.

Who is walking away from this debacle with anything gained? Who?

 

There is no such thing as a neo Nazi. They're called Nazis, and Nazis murdered MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of innocent people for their race and beliefs.

And, by the way, there are a handful of them serving in the highest levels of this White House administration as we speak.

 

Okay, and communists murdered MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of innocent people for their beliefs.....guess what? They are both still garbage.

 

It's the triggered generation. A key lesson that the millennials obviously didn't get is DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

 

One thing is for sure, there's always a Dodge to blame

 

Or the History channel.

 

Holy crap, forgot about that- the Big Old Blues Brothers Boys Band.

 

Great, Trump tries to address the issues of bigotry, hatred, and racism and then says he is thinking about pardoning someone who was convicted of contempt of court for continuing illegal racial profiling and who joked about his prisons as being concentration camps.

 

I think it was the Good Ol' Blues Brothers Boys Band. Pretty close to a perfect comedy movie.

 

NAZI did not murder millions on day one. They.did it after people chose to leave them alone and quite a few served in their government, including the president...

 

By this metric, the government should have taken action against all these Alt-Right nationalists too. They sure do not promote peace.

Why hasn't the government taken action against Westboro church? You are saying they should right? They've said some horrible things. It is free speech in the end. Considering the man lost his son, he's going to be angry.

I don't think they sat by and watched anything, they had men in riot gears armed as if they were heading for war, they did all they could in their power to contain those situations. If they did any more it wouldn't have benefitted anyone.

I guess I'll end with this.

The thing you've actually spoken truth to in this thread is that this is all perception based. All these groups operate behind a perception of being wronged, oppressed, or some injustice. The problem is, perception is reality as they say, and outside of ISIS (Because I'm agnostic, don't care much for religion or their holy wars) there is a sliver of truth to those other groups perceptions. It doesn't come out of nowhere and they are being paranoid about an issue I feel and taking it to the extreme.

Are 'whites', the demographic, shrinking both in America and Europe? Yes.
Will white people be extinct and is there a white genocide? No.
Is there a growing surge of racism and nationalism world wide? Yes.
Does it mean the second coming of Hitler? No.

You can go on and on with this as it pertains to this group or that,

They all operate that the most extreme of their fears are true and thus think drastic measures are to be taken place.

 

Look forward to another five pages of this

 

If one of them had recently lost a child to attacking a black man and getting shot in self defense and then showed up to the event and told the person to run over the crowd, I'd fully support him being arrested and charged for it. You simply can't have that kind of thing happening.

No, there's a difference between saying hateful, stupid things, and inciting violence. Saying the stupid, hateful things that the inbred morons that make up the Westbroro Church is protected free speech but if they decided to form a mob and someone directed them towards violence, that would no longer be protected free speech.

See the difference? I don't like those scumbags any more than you do, but there simply is a difference between inciting violence and saying awful things.

They didn't do all in their power, it was well within their power to completely squash the riot before it ever got that out of control, instead they chose to let it go, just like they did in many other cities like Baltimore.

They tried to do the same thing in Washington DC during Trump's inaugural....it ended VERY differently.

I think this is where we can agree although I fully understand why the ISIS people feel the way they do even if I think it's ridiculous and barbaric. I go out of my way to try and understand the reasons why people think the things they do because that's the only way you can start to understand them. Every extremist group starts with a sliver of truth and they use that to justify their extremism.

In the end, people are all the same and no matter how hard it is to humanize them due to their views and actions, I think it's something we have to do. That doesn't mean condoning anything they do, it doesn't mean that you don't punish them for their actions. It just means remembering that at the end of the day they are still people which means that in their minds at least, they are doing the right thing.

No matter what else we might not see completely eye to eye with, I think we can both agree on this

 

Or numerous posts from rightwingers defending/supporting Sheriff Joe and/or "whatabouting" some unrelated or nonequivalent thing Obama did.

 

BTW I find it hilarious he worked in the word "thug"

Like STFU

 

Trump is mad that people see through his lack of sincerity in making the statement today.

 

LOL... nothing like reading a visibly insincere speech off a teleprompter two days late. While I have always taught by kids that it is never too late to do the right thing, I also emphasize that doing the right thing requires sincerity.

 

It would have been better if Trump had said that he understands the anger of the attacker but he condemns the violence and then took an opportunity to propose stricter "common sense" car inspection policies. That would have made everyone happy....

 

A$$holes gotta A$$hole...

 

This is unbelievable

Some nazis with 0 affiliations with Trump hold a rally and the scumbag media managed to make it all about Trump.

**** the media.

Wher was the media when Obama refused to disavow the Dallas Police shooter?

**** your double standard.