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Trump wants to invade Venezuela now?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    The Bolivar is now worth less than the fictitious World of Warcraft gold

    Venezuela’s opposition-led congress announced on Wednesday that inflation in the country’s economy quickened to 248.6 percent in the first seven months of the year and is expected to jump to almost 700 percent by December.
     
  2. Major

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    It's never, ever that simple.
     
  3. prohibido

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    Maduro is an idiot and Venezuela would certainly benefit from different leadership but he is in fact democratically elected.

    And US military intervention in Latin America is always a very bad idea.
     
  4. pahiyas

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    Wagging the dog too hard.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Maduro is an idiot, a cruel, restrictive, and oppressive leader. He isn't 1/10 as bad as Assad is in Syria, but the guy is bad news.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    There are a lot of Venezuelans in Houston. Talk to some of them . Their recent assembly election was a complete fraud. If there was a legitimate election maduro would not win. At least chavez helped the poor people. This guy is helping no one.
     
  7. WNBA

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    Venezuela must have done something right if a NAZI country wants to invade them.

    God bless Venezuela.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    IIRC, Venezuelans re-elected Chavez after news of a failed coup. Sure, those elections are likely heavily rigged, but you didn't have people rise up either.

    No way they want US troops there. The American people might be blind and forgetful, but the rest of the world are trying to avoid our military like the plague.
     
  9. hlcc

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    I don't think the diaspora population have the same political view points as the majority of the population. They tend to be either the elite (educated or wealthy enough to leave) or the hardcore dissidents, the majority of the population don't fall under these 2 categories. Just look at the Vietnamese diaspora in the US, a big percentage of them are still fervently pro South Vietnam despite the fact that 1) it's been more than 40 years since South Vietnam's demise and 2) The South Vietnamese regime was pretty unpopular even with their own population at the time.
     
  10. generalthade_03

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    This post right here illustrates the ignorance of a lefty's mind. Learn something about the Vietnamese people before you spewed your ignoramus view.
     
  11. hlcc

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    Right....... the South Vietnamese regime was a popular one with amazing leaders such as Diem, Thieu and various short lived military leaders..... I sure learned something new today.
     
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    Nicolás Maduro is a puppet controlled by drug cartels and Chavez's political decedents who are paid handsomely by the cartels, removing Madruro changes nothing and might actually make matters worse. Seems like another oil war imo
     
  13. generalthade_03

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    The problem with you kiddo is you got your schooling straight from the boobtube about the VN war. The war was lost not on the battlefields but on the floor of Congress and the antiwar media that brainwashed people like you.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Which part of it is ignorance in your view? I'm not so sure about the first two sentences, but hlcc is right later on. The Vietnamese here ran away from communist and have been living in a democracy, so naturally they are pro South Vietnam. South Vietnamese viewed their government as incompetent at best.
     
  15. generalthade_03

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    This is exactly what I meant, you have zero clues about the VN war because you were brainwashed just like the others.
     
  16. Amiga

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    Unable to answer a simple question. Shame.
     
  17. BigDog63

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    Exactly. Taking military off of the 'out of consideration' bucket is nothing more than that. It leaves it on the table. Which is a negotiating tactic.

    Generally, the purpose of this is to achieve a desired goal without needing military intervention. When you take your strongest deterrent off the table, your negotiating position is lowered. I don't understand why we'd ever take it off the table, at least not without some quid pro quo on the other side.

    Further, invasion is just one of the military options, and it would be the farthest down the list. Well, I guess it would hopefully be above 'nuke 'em'
     
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    Why should military intervention even be "on the table"? Whether you like the regime or not, this would be gross interference in the internal affairs of an independent country and against international law. The stated excuse of protecting American citizens in Venezuela is the textbook reason of gunboat diplomacy.
     
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    Any bets that Trump can find Venezuela on the map? North Korea? Puerto Rico?
     
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    Genuinely trying to think of a single military invasion we conducted where the country we invaded was better off for it. Seems like we add to the mess or are just another cog in the cycle of instability.
     

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