Another Day Another Uneducated Angry White Trumpanzee

I'm fine with you believing that the civil rights movement was a group of extremist terrorists. You believe all sorts of stupid things, why would any of them bother me?

 

My issue with identity politics is that it is inherently divisive and is almost always bigoted. Now you'll hear plenty of excuses for it, such as "if not for this movement _____ will still be disadvantaged" or "if not for this movement then _____ will continue to be mistreated and discriminated against" but those excuses ring hollow.

You can take every single identitarian group and fill in the blank with a different answer and it's plug and play. They all say the same things because they are all infected with the same disease.

 

Was MLK an inherently divisive identitarian? I mean, sure, he talked about solidarity between people of all colors, but he also talked a lot specifically about the challenges that black people faced, and the privileges white people had in comparison. Do you feel that was inherently divisive too and, on that basis, bigoted? And if you think it was OK for him given the times he lived in, the next question, naturally, is at what point does it cross over from being OK to being not OK.

 

Five police officers got at BLM rally


Why didn't anyone yell for denunciation


The liberal slant in the media is gonna bubble over violently

 

I don't view him as an identitarian, he wanted co-existence and legit equality. It's a fine line one must walk when you tread in the identity politics waters. The one things MLK had going is that he had a legitimate cause AND he wasn't an extremist....now there were others at the time who were extremists that were at least on paper on the same side as him and those would be the divisive and bigoted identitarians of his time. Malcom X would be the easiest example.

Unfortunately today, pretty much all of those really into identity politics are extremists. There are no MLK's, only Malcom X's and David Duke's

 

I respectfully disagree about him thinking like them. In fact many people I know think like them too. It's just few have the guts to be out there and public about it like the David Dukes and Richard Spencer's of the world. Actually Trump has gone closer to the public KKK side than 99% of racist white Americans would ever think or talk publicly.

Go watch the countless videos of him talking about his superior genes. Go research his Central Park 5 media assault. His lawsuit where he got caught red handed discriminating. Then there's the whole Birther theory he was the #1 champion for.

I'm more than comfortable stating that he's a racist and thinks like "them" (white nationalists/supremacists).

Some things are right in front of our faces in broad daylight and so obvious it's almost too obvious be true. Trump in the past has been a bigot in more white collar ways, but he's been proven a bigot and a racist too many times to make a serious argument otherwise.

Also very few racist really think they are racists. Even though he's worn a suit and (obnoxiously long) tie and not a clan hood, he's achieved more for their cause than David Duke or Richard Spencer could ever dream of... even before he got elected.

 

Everything really boils down to a bunch of dorks who can't get laid making it worse for everyone else. ISIS - can't get laid. UVA torch marchers - can't get laid. BobbytheFlake - can't get laid. Easy solution would be to pay some hookers to give it up to these dork ass virgins. It would at least placate them for a while.

 

Still trying to defend the indefensible with "whatabouts"...

 

When the president encourages violence against his enemies...then one of his fanboys drives a car into a group of his enemies...then don't try to say that he doesn't have a hand in it. The protest may have still happen, but these protests have been happening for years. They are only turning violent under Trump.

 

What about Pearl Harbor for Christ's sakes?

 

Lol at the idea that people didn't denounce the shooting in Dallas damn

 

Playing the race card, together with the focus on identity politics, which in its racial aspects is racism plain and simple, has been a central piece of the explantion of why the Democrats have been gettung their asses kicked in elections, all up and down the ballot, from the white house all to tge dog house.

If you guys want to double down on this crap, yet again, have at it. But I really am doing you a solid by trying to talk you all off of the ledge here. As you are probably aware, insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. But if course it is up to you to decide whether you want to go that same way again

 

Thanks for your wisdom, Yoda.

 

I agree with @MojoMan about this

Fighting back against white nationalism, or racism in general, won't help democrats win elections.

 

That's why I say that the identitarians are cancer.....we've see the spread of it the last several years and this is just yet another example of what comes from it. Now sure we'll have partisans blame Trump for this, but if this incident is his fault, the Dallas and Baton Route incidents are Obama's fault.

Pointing fingers at politicians in an effort to gain political points does nothing to stop the actual problems. Instead we need to reject all of these groups. If every member of AntiFa, BLM, and every white nationalist group were to die tomorrow, the world would be a better place for it.

 

You already know the KKK's beginning (I think), but no surprise you "forget" for the sake of argument.

Anyways, I don't really care about continuing this. This subject doesn't consume me. Already said all extremist should stop.

 

You are getting really confused, are you talking about things 150 years ago or are we talking about now? I was talking about things now.....and you want to talk about "recently freed slaves".....

Yeah. It's probably best we stop this conversation because it's not going anywhere.

 

Not necessarily but being better at politics would help them win. The Republicans would never let us hear the end of it if a Democrat was sitting next to the former leader of the Alt Right, had a literal Nazi as a spokesperson, and had the checkered racist past that Trump has.

Let's face it. The Democratic Party sucks at politics and the Republicans shameless employ every dirty tactic necessary to win. If they are so insecure in their ability to play offensive politics and not take advantage of major gimmies from Trump that are served up on a platter than yeah... they'll lose.

FYI indentity politics is a garbage right wing definition they created with negative connotations that liberals cower when they hear. F that. Democrats should embrace the fact that they want to appeal to minorities and aim for diversity.