Another Day Another Uneducated Angry White Trumpanzee

A President who speaks simply still needs other people to clarify **** for him.

Genius!

 

I'm not associated with any of those groups and I'm not a political figure so I'm not sure why me denouncing them would even matter but of course I don't agree with the freaking Nazis.

 

If for the media and the Democrat left, this event is a time to re-energize their identity politics movement, they are making a big mistake here. The white supremacists are racists and are loathsome because of that. But make no mistake, the millions of racists on the Democrat left are loathsome as well.

The vast majority of conservatives do not identify with this small group of white supremacists. But how many on the left are cheering on the racial hostility and political tension that comes from fanning the flames of the left's identity politics movement?

If you participate in or support either one of these movements, you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

 

Trump sends his "best regards to all of those injured" and goes golfing.​

Sad.

 

Especially when RocketLegend claimed the driver was an antifa member.

 

Both parties have their own extreme wing rearing its head in response to Trump. You can disown and disavow those white supremacists, but they voted for Trump. Similarly you can disavow Trump, but could you also disavow his agenda?

The mistake is to assume silence from the other side means they're all extremists. We're all equally guilty for that, and it isn't getting any better.

 

Another Trump supporter defending the indefensible with another "what about".

 

If Trump were a leader of everyone he would speak out against the White Nationalists/neo-Nazis. If he came out and said something like, "To the White Nationalists, Klansmen, Nazi sympathizers and racists who were protesting in VA. I want to be very clear with you. I don't welcome your support, you aren't welcome at Trump gatherings, you aren't welcome in the Republican party, and your ideas have no place in the United States. I will protect your right to protest, and your freedom of speech. But I don't agree with anything you say, nor is it welcome at any event bearing my name. I don't want your support, and I urge you to re-think this offensive and un-American philosophy. To those people who oppose the White Nationalist and racist groups. You too need to make sure your protests, demonstrations, and expression of your freedom of speech are non-violent."

If he makes that statement, he would be taking leadership on the issue, squashing any belief or emboldened feeling that these groups have because of his presidential victory.

Sadly, Trump doesn't have the courage to do that.

 

The Democrat's "identity politics" movement as it applies to race is very certainly racist, and is therefore also extremist in the sense you seem to be using the term. Sadly, this is not just a few isolated individuals out on the far left fringe. In fact, this was one of the central themes of Hillary Clinton's failed campaign, and it has also been a central theme of the far-left Netroots Nation conference, yet again, just this week.

 

NSFW but hilarious

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/im-...-face-of-hate-in-virginia-and-now-regrets-it/

I'll never understand how idiots like this get created in the first place. Who could possibly feel like "european culture" doesn't have the right to be here? How do people get their identity or self worth so completely wrapped up in the color of their skin? How do people like this rub shoulders with guys like David Duke and Richard Spencer and think everyone should just chill out and think they're "peaceful"?

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-group-loved-trump’s-remarks-about-charlottesville-white-supremacists/ar-AApZH0c?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Quick summary: Neo-nazis at Stormfront think Trump had their back.

 

It's damage control. I don't understand the obsessions with the Confederacy. When your side lost in the Civil War, so did those ideals. Why would you want to maintain the history of the losing side in still the most brutal war ever conducted in U.S. history? All I read is, "I want to maintain the treasured history of these losers in battle. Though they lost, we should still hear them out on their failed ideals. It didn't work in the 1800s, but goddammit, it's 2017 and times are a changing."

 

You do understand that minorities have a choice, right? It isn't about being promised free stuff. It's about one party that has a leader who won't call out neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and Klan members who say they are trying to carry out the leader's campaign promises. That same party has admittedly tried to suppress the votes of minorities with voter ID laws. That same party has appointed and approved a Secretary of Education like Betsy Devos which actively advocates for education policies that will hurt people in the public education system. There are other things that the Republicans have done which are harmful to many minority groups.

So the other major party, the Democrats fight against all of those things. Sadly Democrats don't have to do more than that to win support from the large majority of most minority groups. They don't have to engage in "identity politics". All they have to do is take policy positions that oppose the detrimental positions adopted by the Republicans.

 

The very presence of a Robert E Lee statue and the confederate flag is inherently un-american. The civil war saw to that. Waving a confederate flag should be no different than waving the flag of the rising sun. In the words of one of my favorite musicians.."That's what happens when cousins ****."

 

Growing online movement says driver is innocent and was attacked in his car with bats and bricks

 

Do you believe that if minorities all of a sudden stopped being race-conscious that racial discrimination would no longer be a problem? I guess your answer to that question is either "yes" or "not quite, but eventually yes."

This is where the disagreement lies I believe. Those who think "identity politics", as it applies to race, are still important are convinced that without it racial minorities will continue to be disadvantaged. IOW, if you don't stand up and point out all the ways in which a given racial group is being discriminated against, it's not going to get solved on its own.

That said, I agree that there appears to be an inherent problem with identity politics, as I understand it. The problem is not that it calls attention to our differences and diversity as a society -- that's absolutely fine. But rather that it can discourage people from thinking as individuals -- freely and independently -- unfettered by expectations of how they should behave or what they should believe as perceived members of a given identity group.

 

So in your mind, black identitarians today are "recently freed slaves"? Brilliant.