Another Day Another Uneducated Angry White Trumpanzee

There is an equivalence there, but it's an ideological/philosophical one. Which is what I was pointing out.

I don't think we can truly win these wars against terrorism of any stripe unless we are intellectually honest and identify the values, thoughts, and ideas that give way to terrorism.

Neither President seemed/seems willing to do as such, and so I believe it will persist.

 

Not disputing that. Read my post again.

 

So in your mind MLK was an extremist and those in the civil rights movement were terrorists? Good to know, goes right in line with your normal hot takes.

I'm not sure why you are trying to de-legitimize the civil rights movement by comparing them to modern day identitarians.....but it's pretty disgusting.

 

Trump is normally loose with words and doesn't hold back using extreme description, but when it come to white supremacists and Nazi, he is so careful.

 

There are plenty of violence everywhere.

Irrelevant.

You can be precise in pointing out hatred and extremists group.

I'm precisely pointing out the violent directives in Islam.

You don't do that to a whole religion or race.

I'm doing it to a book.

 

No I am attempting to argue on your behalf. You laid out your logic and I am helping you be consistent. If you say BLM are extremist then you better say the Civil Rights Movement was extremist too, because that's what your logic dictates. Either you admit that or you concede that your argument against BLM was terrible.

 

I wouldn't call some disturbed kid running his car into a crowd terrorism just as much as I wouldn't call San Bernardino terrorism.


Too much made about the usage of the word to begin with and I just don't think lone actors should be called terrorists

Plus it would seem to embolden other lone actors

 

Reverse-racism (by people with no power) and AA certainly compares to slavery.

Fill the blanks for the KKK's birth. Those recently freed slaves held them down, no doubt.

Like I said, white extremists in America is arrogance and beyond stupid.

 

No there isn't.

Obamas word games annoyed me to no end, but under his presidency the justice department targeted muslims that they thought might be prone to extremism and put plans in motion to lead to their arrest. He dropped bombs on their ideological leaders, etc.

Trump won't condemn white nationalists, but it's not just a word game with him. He wants the department of justice to stop targeting them. He puts people who are at least sympathetic to their goals in his administration.

There is a massive difference between obamas word games and trumps actions.

 

There is no such thing as "reverse racism", there's just racism.

Anyway, you can complain about their justification but that misses the point. You are all "beyond stupid" and honestly you are both infected with the same disease.

Unsurprisingly given your shortcomings you are doing a very poor job of it. Clearly you don't understand that extremists without a valid cause are different than non-extremists with a valid cause.

I get that you are doing your best, but it's just embarrassing....so for your own sake, just stop. You have to know you aren't intelligent enough for this.

 

There's really not much difference, black identitarian groups rose to prominence during Obama's time in office and he had his DOJ look the other way and it was stocked with people who were at least sympathetic to their "cause". It's just a sway from one pole to another.

Now sure, both are disgusting, but that's the state of politics today.

 

Obama refused to acknowledge or confirm the role of Islam in the creation of terrorism. He publicly tried as hard as he could to disassociate Islam from terror.

Trump refuses to acknowledge or confirm the role of white nationalism/neo-nazism in the creation of terrorism. God forbid he ever goes out of his way to defend them as not being parcel to terrorism.

There is an undeniable parallel here.



P.S. Do you have a link to Trump urging/forcing the DOJ/FBI/CIA to stop investigating right-wing terrorist groups? I heard some rumblings about that in the early days of the admin but not since.

P.P.S. I'd expect any President to militarily strike at openly hostile terrorist groups like ISIS, etc.

 

There's a reason different crimes have different levels of punishment.

Lumping everything together as equal is ignorant and arrogant.

 

There's a thread here about it. He wants the task form renamed and it's focused changed from extremism to Muslim extremism alone.

Words are one thing, but I'm sorry, obama worked against Islamic terrorism. Trump won't use words and he certainly won't use actions

 

Well I get why you, as an identitarian, would think that other people's identitarian beliefs are worse than your own and that yours are justified and theirs aren't.....but that's exactly how the rest of them feel. Again, you guys are infected with the same disease.

 

You're making no argument, just repeating what you said 3 posts ago. You never disputed me when I said the Civil Rights Movement was violent and caused some destruction. Which is the reason you think BLM is extremist. Yet somehow you only think one group is extremist.

You're lost and out of ideas.

 

In Obama's words, he worked against terrorism. He went after openly hostile actors to our country (I'd expect any other President to do the same). He saw no corollary between their belief system and their behavior, however.

Trump so far has offered silence and false equivalency on the matter of these domestic terrorists and their values. Maybe he'll surprise us and step up and denounce their actions as well as their beliefs.

 

You can say he didn't see the corollary because of his words, but actions said he did. The justice department focused on young Muslim men in American and used a extensive campaign to bait them into taking prosecutable action. They weren't targeting young buddhists so clearly they understood the link.

Trump actually sympathizes with white nationalism even he might reject their violence. His advisors certainly do.