Another Day Another Uneducated Angry White Trumpanzee

I'm not trying to absolve anyone's violence. As I said, nobody should use violence, but we shouldn't speak about the violence from both sides in this instance as if it were equal.

Had the day ended without a neo-nazi weaponizing his car and committing a terrorist act, it would be more acceptable to spend time talking about the protestors from the anti-Nazi side who were also violent.

But that wasn't the case. So, to borrow from another poster in this thread, you don't want to discuss how annoying the mosquitos are when you are suffering from a gunshot wound. After we worry about the gunshot wound then let's focus on getting rid of those annoying mosquitos.

If idiotic Antifa protesters start committing acts of terrorism against white nationalists then we should focus our efforts on calling them out in a more public and zealous manner.

 

Stop comparing 80-year-old history that occurred on a different continent to ongoing happenings on this soil. Whites have never been oppressed here, so extremism from them is mere arrogance and beyond stupid.

 

Explain why it's different then. If you want to maintain consistent logic (even if it's bad logic) then explain how the civil Rights movement is not extremist based on your logic.

 

Also -- the irony of going from a President who refused to single out Islam's role in terrorism to a President who refuses to single out White nationalists/KKK/Nazis role in terrorism is so rich I can barely stand it.

 

In this instance, certainly the car attack was greater violence than the "common" violence that happens every time AntiFa show up at a protest but it doesn't absolve them of the violence that they caused the rest of the day. Both "sides" are equally awful because they are mirror images of each other and I don't think we should lose sight of that.

LOL now it has become very clear that I'm speaking to an identitarian and that changes things. You are under the delusion that black people are currently oppressed by "the man" and that justifies extremism? Yikes. Well then you are part of the problem.

Something all identitarians have in common is that they say "______ are being oppressed and that's why they need to fight back against ____" That's the justification for EVERY extremist group, just fill in the blanks differently.

Explain why non extremists aren't extremists? Are you seriously asking that?

 

I agree with you that they shouldn't be absolved. But they also shouldn't be talked about in the incident from Saturday on the same level. As you mentioned, it wasn't the same level, so to lump them together is a disservice to the victims of the weaponized vehicle.

 

This would be accurate if you had said Christain or White, either of which would be unacceptable due to gross generalization.

 

There's plenty of violent directives in Islam. A lack of melanin, not so much.

 

They are all deserving of scrutiny though and they essentially are the same thing. Now sure, murdering people with a car is more serious than punching, stabbing, and beating people with bottles and bricks, but I think the point is that these groups feed off of each other and the violence intensifies as a result. We honestly need to rid ourselves of both so that we can prevent things like this from happening again.

 

Okay. Fill the blanks for white supremacists.

 

As part of my church's sermon today, my pastor expressed his sorrow about the happenings of this past week. He talked of the hate exemplified by the people carrying tiki torches. He mentioned impatience exemplified by world leaders acting like children. He told the story of Martin Luther King, Jr. who said we are getting there but still have a ways to go. And he quoted Erich Fromm and his view of hope:

 

Easy, they'd say that white people are being oppressed and that's why they need to fight back against it and they would point to things like the fact that racism against white people has become socially acceptable and institutionalized via policies like AA.

Pretty much every extremist group can fill in the blanks as an excuse for their extremism.....but there's never really an excuse.

 

Then you must have poor knowledge of the Civil Rights Movement if you don't think it bears much in common with BLM. It was also a violent and turbulent protest, it wasn't just peacefully walking through the streets.If you think BLM is extremist, you HAVE to also say that the Civil Rights Movement is extremist. And then you laid out clearly why extremist movements aren't justified no matter what.

 

Not accurate. There are plenty of violence everywhere. My statement stand. You can be precise in pointing out hatred and extremists group. You don't do that to a whole religion or race.

 

Ah yes, tell me about all of the times MLK formed lynch mobs and burned cities when they didn't get the lynching they wanted and innocent men went free....

Go back to sleep, you are embarrassing yourself.

 

Obama may not have wanted to use the phrase radical Islamic terrorism, but he bombed Islamic terrorists and spent federal dollars in a program that focused largely on Islamic terrorism, but also on other forms of extremism.

Trump not only won't call it what it is, he wants he federal dollars reference above to stop focusing on the type of terror and hate that he won't verbally condemn.

There is no equivalence there. One president was careful with his words to keep the support of foreign governments in his fight on Islamic terrorists, another won't directly condemn white nationalism to keep their support for him electorally while also helping to lift the governments efforts to eradicate them.

 

I'm guessing you either haven't read the Koran or you just refuse to believe it.

 

Please read up on the many riots that occurred during the Civil Rights Movement that destroyed cities and so forth. You're in over your head. It's clear that I've painted you into a corner. As of now you're just backpedaling in order to make your stance more and more specific so that you can avoid admitting that the Civil Rights Movement was unjustified due to the extremist violence that occurred during it.