I've never ever believed in Reed. He's just fat, slow, left handed Chris Carter. I saw people claiming he was one of the untouchables though. That'd be comical
At this point, they're better off keeping Reed and hope he figures it out, or simply serves as minor league depth in case of injury. Guys do figure it out past 24... he just needs to be serious about his work ethic both on and off the field.
Any references to Reed as an untouchable is looking back at his status as one of MLB's top 1B prospects prior to his call-up last year. There is no way in hell he is an untouchable now.
Kyle Tucker is almost certainly going to force his way onto this team at some point next year. If he lives up to expectations, it will NOT take him 6-8 years to replace Springer's production. That's just absurd. Hell, Springer made the leap his fourth year (very standard for *most* Major Leaguers), and every indication is that Tucker's a better prospect. They have Tucker in the Correa wing of prospects; they think *that* highly of him. The Astros are not looking at this as a two-year window; they want to extend the window indefinitely by stocking its pipeline with blue-chip prospects. Someone on Twitter, I thought, put it perfectly: the Astros are going to operate more like a college football program, turning players over every four(ish) years as a means to control costs and sustain success. I'm sure they'll keep any and every one that they can - but they're going to have to make some tough financials decisions... Altuve + Correa, alone, is likely going to cost upwards of $50MM/year on their next deals.
Yes; well, with regards to Tucker-Springer. Finding the next Springer is easier than finding the next Tucker because they believe Tucker is the next Springer; in fact, they think he'll be better than Springer. Again, they rate him on the same level as Correa. Stop. You undermine your creditability when you wallow in straw-man hyperboles in some flaccid attempt to score points.
Agreed. Justin Smoak would be an example of a highly touted guy who flopped hard in the bigs, and just now figured it out.
Somewhat off topic, but trade related: how thankful are the Astros that the original Giles deal that involved Fisher fell through (thank you, VV for failing your physical) and the Astros had to sweeten the deal by subbing in Appel for Fisher? Fisher looks like he can be regular on a contenting team--if not more. Someone who can give you Reddick's production at a faction of the cost. They'll have some options and decisions to make going forward once tucker appears ready. But those are the good kind of problems.
If they honestly think any prospect is going to be better than someone who is currently an MVP candidate, that's pretty comical
I should have inserted the term "potentially" into that sentence. They have no idea how good Tucker will be. But he's been a better minor league and grades out much higher than a Springer. They have Tucker at the same level as Correa, prospect-wise.
That makes no sense. Any team can have prospects that they think might be better than a current MVP candidate on their team or in all of baseball. Was it comical the Astros (and fans) thought that Correa could be better than Altuve?
I think the premise some Astros fans hope to avoid is that if the front office thinks they can routinely replace legitimate MVP players with future prospects... its likely not going to end well. I don't think this front office, or any front office, thinks that way. They all understand that there are a tremendous number of variables that can prevent a stud prospect from ultimately succeeding. Doesn't mean you should trade all prospects... or that all prospects won't make it... its just against the odds (based on the 150+ year history of baseball) that any farm system can continue to call up an all-star/MVP player each/every year. In the end, a bird in the hand is better than the unknown... they know what Springer/Correa/Altuve are now. If they want to plan ahead... without optimizing the chances they have... I can see valid complaints against that strategy (which isn't even their strategy.... they are trying to optimize now, they just failed this go-around).
The Mariners got Alonso from Oakland for a half eaten donut. Really zero excuse for not addressing some of the Astros issues.
Which player other than Verlander has cleared waivers? I don't see any other ToR starters or elite relievers that would pass through waivers or even make it to Houstons waiver spot. I do so hope they're doing everything they can to trade for Verlander. Dude has been lights out the last few starts.
One thing about August trades is that buyers can't include any prospects who are on the 40 man roster. There's no way that Martes, Moran, Musgrove, Davis, or Fisher passed thru, so they are off the table. If a deal gets done for a significant player, it will have to be built around guys not on the 40 man: Tucker, Whitley, Perez, Alvarez, etc. To me a deal built around Perez and Alvarez should be fine as the package to start negotiations around how much money Detroit needs to eat.
We are talking about Luhnow ..... Martes and Fisher were already off the table. Your wider point is a good one though.
Good point. Interesting context for Davis -- by adding him to the 40 man, they made him untradeable. Unless they're picking up a huge chunk of the tab, Tucker/Whitley wouldn't be on the table anyway. I'd be iffy including Franklin Perez unless there's like $30+ million coming back.
